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Old 07-26-2012, 10:51 AM   #1
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$2 180 postflop AJ

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    Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13581862

    MP2: 13,847 (23.1 bb)
    MP3: 4,084 (6.8 bb)
    CO: 10,253 (17.1 bb)
    BTN: 3,024 (5 bb)
    SB: 4,970 (8.3 bb)
    BB: 18,093 (30.2 bb)
    UTG+1: 4,270 (7.1 bb)
    UTG+2: 9,931 (16.6 bb)
    Hero (MP1): 8,702 (14.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J A
    2 folds, Hero raises to 1,200, MP2 calls 1,200, 3 folds, SB calls 900, BB folds

    Flop: (4,650) 7 5 T (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 7,452 and is all-in, MP2 calls 7,452, SB folds

    Turn: (19,554) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (19,554) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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    Old 07-26-2012, 11:23 AM   #2
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

    Openship if this hand is representative as in a hell lot of flatters.
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    Old 07-26-2012, 11:24 AM   #3
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

    And that donkshove is just hilarious.
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    Old 07-26-2012, 11:45 AM   #4
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

    Raise is fine, obv flop shove is terrible. I would bet/get in it v SB if MP got out the way (as SB is committed) but if MP flats it's time to give up unless we improve ofc. Shoving pre would also be bad.
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    Old 07-26-2012, 12:00 PM   #5
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

    Disagree with these villains.
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    Old 07-26-2012, 12:03 PM   #6
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

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    Shoving pre would also be bad.
    ^^ Now that's funny!!!

    Like r/f or r/c AJo from MP for less than 15bbs is the nuts
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    Old 07-26-2012, 01:22 PM   #7
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

    Missing a ton of value, don't find that particularly humourous myself.
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    Old 07-26-2012, 02:03 PM   #8
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

    600 OTF.
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    Old 07-26-2012, 02:32 PM   #9
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

    It depends on the players, but having no reads I guess opening is fine. Like someone said if they have been flatting a lot, open jam would work. Actually you are calling the 3 three shortstacks anyway when you open 2x, the problem is the other three guys.
    I wonder whether cbeting on the flop is good, I mean it misses a lot of MP2 range, but there is the sb. Jamming on the flop seems weaker than cbeting and the worst option imo. I think MP2 most likely hands are premiums, broadways.
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    Old 07-26-2012, 02:37 PM   #10
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

    Just saw the spoiler, MP2 picked up on your move otf. Cbet probably wouldnt work on this situation either, since he is most likely calling there. But maybe this is the best option? Hard to tell since we dont know if he is calling this board with overcards.
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    Old 07-26-2012, 06:21 PM   #11
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

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    600 OTF.
    would you please explain the intention of the betsize?
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    Old 07-26-2012, 06:38 PM   #12
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

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    would you please explain the intention of the betsize?
    maybe as a blocking bet? making him call with almost any hand that did not hit the board and not making it expensive to you as would be if you just checked and he bet. that is the only reason for that bet I can see, even though it is very exploitable vs a good player.
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    Old 07-26-2012, 07:57 PM   #13
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

    jam pré or B/F flop

    definitely prefer jam.
    couple of short stacks behind and only have 14 bb
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    Old 07-26-2012, 08:38 PM   #14
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

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    Missing a ton of value, don't find that particularly humourous myself.
    There's a tonne of value in taking the dead money preflop..

    Generally jamming pre with these effective stacks
    As played tiny/call SB, fold to MP2 is fine.

    And lol at "he picked up on your play"
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    Old 07-26-2012, 09:13 PM   #15
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    Re: $2 180 postflop AJ

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    There's a tonne of value in taking the dead money preflop..
    There's 100 tons of value in raising and getting flatted by crap.
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