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02-22-2012, 06:30 AM
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veteran
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2$ 180 men pre FT
table was super tight, was stealing without resistance.
We push this with those reads?
PokerStars NLHE Tournament, ($2.28+$0.22), t800/t1600/t150 blinds, 7 handed, 30%/20%/11.9%/8%/6.5%/5%/3.5%/2.6%/1.7% payouts
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{Tournament|PokerStars|2.28|0.22|800|1600|150|180-Man}
UTG: t19945 11 BBs {Player|UTG|19945|RaiseTo|3350|Overridden|16|14|13 |13|16|16|9|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2|2| 2|2|2|2|2|2}
Hero: t38919 22 BBs{Player|Hero|38919|Ad|Qd}
UTG+2: t2720 1.6 BBs {Player|UTG+2|2720|Fold|150}
CO: t7775 4.4 BBs {Player|CO|7775|Fold|150}
BTN: t31241 18 BBs {Player|BTN|31241|Fold|150}
SB: t21272 12 BBs {Player|SB|21272|Fold|150}
BB: t13850 7.9 BBs {Player|BB|13850|Fold|150}
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A  Q 
UTG raises to t3350 (8+), Hero?
anotherone, postflop pre FT:
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2,000(BB) Replayer
SB ($16,300)
BB ($19,045)
Hero ($37,799)
UTG+1 ($3,540)
CO ($31,091)
BTN ($27,947)
Dealt to Hero K  A
Hero raises to $4,300, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $2,300
FLOP ($10,800) 2  7  8
BB bets $14,545 (AI), Hero calls $14,545
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02-22-2012, 06:42 AM
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adept
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 782
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
1) I think the raise is good with AQs since it might induce some action we want from hands that might have otherwise folded. As described I'd raise/fold to a BTN 3bet, but call everyone else.
2) Shoving is probably easier, since everyone is so short, but I don't see a problem as you've played it. I'd probably call aswell, since it looks like a stop n go play.
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02-22-2012, 07:18 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
Hand1) Is villain playing 16/14? I think I'd jam it here most of the time. Not a snap jam though. 11BB open looks a bit suspicious, though some villains are opening most of their range, instead of shoving.
Hand2) I like r/c pre here. Any reads on villain? I like a call, but villains show up with small pocketpairs looking for a good flop. Also a lot of random bull****, like Ax or like KQ, KJ, QJ, T9 etc. I think it's close, but a call readless. You don't do too bad against pairs considering pot odds, and are surprisingly often ahead and dominating.
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02-22-2012, 07:45 AM
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veteran
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
qdoodydota: i can only jam or fold, not open...
no info on villain, but he did not open a single hand since been at the table.
PS: Both are same opponents.
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02-22-2012, 12:42 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
Sorry I misread the hand
it's an interesting spot
I am inclined to jam and build a stack unless I find strong reasons not to do so.
One such reason might be blocking stacks behind me or unprecedented nitiness of UTG.
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02-22-2012, 12:59 PM
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veteran
Join Date: May 2010
Location: mom's basement
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
r/c both
re #2: i just fold and tell no one. vs all his draws(very few imo)/ A7,A8, 8x, 7x, 66/99 etc etc our eq is goin down fast.
need to do some maths on it, it may be kinda close but id say just fold from looking at it.
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02-22-2012, 02:22 PM
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
hand 1 isnt a standard call imo considering how nitty the table is and his raise with 11 bb from utg is suspicious,but im prob still getting it in considering stack sizes.
hand 2 fold otf,easy.
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02-22-2012, 06:17 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
hand 1- shove. just shove.
hand 2- prob fold.. if he was shorter you could make an argument to call. If you are unsure of spots like this use this as a reference.. if he's from russia, brazil or spain, then call.
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02-22-2012, 06:46 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
mhhh...cant really fold a hand that i have decided to be ai already preflop.
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02-23-2012, 01:53 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
If you think he was tight, he wouldn't stop'n'go there without a pair I think. Making it a fold.
Agree with plo ufo on making broad generalizations when you are unsure, and readless in those spots.
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02-23-2012, 03:58 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
1. shove
2. I might fold.
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02-23-2012, 01:36 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
Quote:
Originally Posted by plo ufo
hand 1- shove. just shove.
hand 2- prob fold.. if he was shorter you could make an argument to call. If you are unsure of spots like this use this as a reference.. if he's from russia, brazil or spain, then call.
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lmfao at hand #2 comment, must color code players by nationality.
Add Italians also, advised, apart from at midday
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02-23-2012, 10:25 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lisbon
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermits_FTW
lmfao at hand #2 comment, must color code players by nationality.
Add Italians also, advised, apart from at midday
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LOL....
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02-23-2012, 10:29 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lisbon
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Re: 2$ 180 men pre FT
1st: I'm shoving AQs there, unlucky if he's trapping\inducing any monster.
2nd: Do you have notes on blinds? Anyway, im always shoving there because I think its much more profitable not risking to get called and miss the flop. As it was played I don't really dislike the call on the flop because it can be a easily stop and go from the villain.
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