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09-21-2016 , 01:39 AM

ThePokerBot

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,793

The big blind is laggy so I expect a lot of flats and 3bets so should we flat out shove to put ICM pressure on him or is it too risky?

PokerStars - $7.34+$0.66|1500/3000 Ante 300 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 58,511 (VPIP: 14.42, PFR: 11.79, 3Bet Preflop: 7.60, Hands: 1,424)
CO: 45,836 (VPIP: 16.44, PFR: 14.68, 3Bet Preflop: 7.66, Hands: 2,025)
BTN: 57,303 (VPIP: 13.19, PFR: 11.53, 3Bet Preflop: 7.98, Hands: 3,248)
Hero (SB): 56,952
BB: 51,398 (VPIP: 26.98, PFR: 21.67, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 63)

5 players post ante of 300, Hero posts SB 1,500, BB posts BB 3,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 6,000) Hero has A

fold, fold, fold, [color=red]Hero ???

09-21-2016 , 04:32 AM

Leia Amidala

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 451

instant shove vs a laggy/aggro reg for me. you probably dont wanna minr/call, and cbetting vs a float or raise is kinda gross.

09-22-2016 , 10:54 AM

LektorAJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,826

+1 Open jam this.

09-22-2016 , 11:33 AM

Corpsey

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 438

Yep, shoving with those reads.

09-22-2016 , 10:40 PM

oldskool87

adept

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 843

ugh if he had just a little less chips id be happy r/c but as is ship itttt

09-29-2016 , 06:20 PM

xPISCIVOROUSx

adept

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 752

This is an unexploitable shove, i ren it and the bottom peak still leaves +0.23% of profit in $EV mode and for this villain would have to be calling us 32%ish of hands but from this point on the wider he calls the more profit we generate, of course it sucks when we get coolered but in the long run open shoving this is the best option imo.

09-30-2016 , 03:52 AM

LektorAJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,826

^ Yeah that's often the case with Ace jams. If they are jammable then it tends to be be less read-dependent - if they're too tight then they are taking out aces which dominate us and if they are too loose they are adding aces that we dominate.

It's different with a hand like 54s where we lose out if villain is calling all his Q-rag trash and ideally we'd like to know if he's doing that.

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