my default line here is to fold, but i feel that in situations like this we can ~min raise and call off certain opponenets( MP2, BB and maybe sb) profitably and am trying to implement it into my game. That being said in the specific hand i think im a little too short with 18bb maybe something like 22b would be better. I dont want to be results orientated and assume the plays unprofitable because it didnt work this time so... How bad is this and should i never do it again.

Thanks

fold pré

as played fold vs 3bet
your MR looks so strong you could only call of MP2's shove because you are way behind shoving range of other players
you are at most flipping vs BB's shove

This deep and/or with those stacks behind you opening 2.5x its no good, keep it smaller minr its better and the end up results will be the same but costing you less chips in the long run.

This hand its a clear example on how minr its better than 2.5x, by opening 2.5x you´re a lot more pot odds commited to call the BB 3bet shove in comparission if you have just minr.

As played, u need 36% equity vs villain 3bet shoving range in that spot (getting 1.8:1 on the call) to breakeven so youneed villain to be pushing around top 20% of hands something like 22+,A8s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo, if u think villain its 3bet pushing that over you´re 2.5x open from MP then its a close call and makes no differences if u call or fold, but if you think he´s wider than call, tighter of course fold pre.

PS: You gotta have a LAG image and/or villain been a good regular or a maniac random to be 3bet pushing that light in that spot.

The 2.5x open pre was a miss click would have min. Thanks for replies so far.

I don't mind looking for sports with marginal holdings that make your decision facing a 3bet pretty easy. I think it works better when there are clear shorties and clear larger stacks behind. Something like when opponents are either < 8bb or > 14bb for example. I like a fold pre here because with your current stack size and the stack sizes behind, you're hating life if either blind rejams in this specific spot.

As played though, there's no way we can fold to the 3bet. Villains 3bet range would have to be absurdly tight, like 99+ AQs+, considering we're getting 2 to 1 on a call.

Think you need to recheck your math.

You´re right, its 1.6:1 not 1.8:1, so OP needs 38% vs BB range

But far from the 2:1 u stated here

its very close to 2 to 1 based on my math.

blinds + antes = 1000

Our raise makes it 1900

Villains all in makes it 5190, and its 2690 for us to call, so we need ~34% equity.

We're getting that price if villain is any wider than 5%.

I want some history and a fairly big 3b% stat to be calling BB. Good raise, wp, but prefer fold to shove as default.

opening is fine but i'm never calling off bb's reshove. The only stack you can r/c is vs the shortiest stack.

Very confused by everyone wanting to fold to the reshove. We only need 34% equity for this to be a profitable call. What range are you guys suggesting bb is reshoving? There is no way we can put him on a range that isn't giving us the right price to call.

no readz?
if he's good player I think he's not reshoving more than 10 %
your MR on MP1 looks wreal strong

Sorry, still confused. Where have you got 10% from? We only need 34% equity and we have that vs anything wider than a ~6% reshove range. It doesn't matter if we don't have any reads because whether he's bad, good, or otherwise, the majority of players are putting it in with wider than 6%. When we don't have reads, we generalise. Do you think the majority of villains fold 88/AJo/ATs here? If the answer is no, then we need to be calling.

You'd need a solid read that he's super nitty to NOT call here.

I'm so shocked by the responses given so far.
I personally think you played it well, the only mistake here is your raise size, make it 800.
I'd raise, then call mp2, sb, bb, and fold vs others.
I strongly disagree with a fold preflop.
Those who said to fold KTs vs bb with 1.9 to 1 odds must be joking.
Hope I didnt offense anybody, just my point of view