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180 man 2,5$ difficult decision 180 man 2,5$ difficult decision

12-02-2015 , 08:02 PM
hi gius here i have a very difficult decision in my opinion...so maybe my bet on the flop is a mistake but he shoves me//so i have troubles...so what do you thinkk?? i am on the beggining and i dont know is i must risk my tournament life for 1 flush...so what do you think?



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $4.10 Buy-in (15/30 blinds, 4 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37180615

Hero (BTN): 2,151 (71.7 bb)
SB: 924 (30.8 bb)
BB: 1,363 (45.4 bb)
UTG+1: 1,880 (62.7 bb)
UTG+2: 1,589 (53 bb)
MP1: 1,383 (46.1 bb)
MP2: 2,225 (74.2 bb)
MP3: 1,661 (55.4 bb)
CO: 1,293 (43.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2 A
6 folds, Hero raises to 75, SB folds, BB calls 45

Flop: (201) J 4 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 90, BB raises to 1,284 and is all-in, HERO?
12-03-2015 , 05:42 AM
pre would raise bigger
flop bet is fine imo
would snap fold that and look for better spots
12-03-2015 , 06:23 AM
pre fine
Flop is pot odds question
If i did all math right we need around 43% equity, depends what you think is his range but i would definetly say vs his check/allin range we can call.
12-03-2015 , 06:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr00123
pre would raise bigger
flop bet is fine imo
would snap fold that and look for better spots
What is worst hand you would call if you fold nut flush draw + 1 over here with 2 cards to come?
12-03-2015 , 06:53 AM
pre is okay, flop is okay, now i would fold it

@TCplayer , we dont have even 50% vs his range ( i supose he will shove random Jx hands, straight draws,flush draws,combodraws,etc ) and i belive that less than 50% isnt enough for me to call even if pot odds are correct, because i would be gambling my 45 bbs for like + of 2 BBs at best in this spot (im not accure 100%,talking this from my head),and i wont accept willingly so small plus and risk to lose all of my chips because in the long run i really dont care if i here have 45BB or 47BB at best

if we consider a little bubble factor, our equity in tournament with this stack ( even if it is small stage ) this is clearly fold to me. it is difference obv if we win the hand and have 100bb stack, but it isnt such a big difference and that stack doesnt guarantee us that we well cash in at all, while with folding we're still in the tournament for sure... i am sure 100% that we shouldnt stack here. if we had AsQs or smt,then it could be probably good
12-03-2015 , 08:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TCplayer
What is worst hand you would call if you fold nut flush draw + 1 over here with 2 cards to come?
would consider folding top 2 even
i see no reason to make high variance calls being that deep
12-03-2015 , 11:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr00123
pre would raise bigger
flop bet is fine imo
would snap call that and look for better spots
Especially +600ish starting yeah.

Last decision different because I don't mind 15-25BB at 15/30. Get into pushbot early.
12-03-2015 , 12:08 PM
I would call shove. Overbet could be a draw. You have straight flush draws crushed for example. Seems unlikely he has 4sxs, as people don't play 4s much and you have the As: anyway, you are slightly ahead versus that. Seems kind of bad for him to play a set that way. He could have 2-pair, but not that many combinations of that he is likely to play preflop.
12-04-2015 , 05:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by betgo
I would call shove. Overbet could be a draw. You have straight flush draws crushed for example. Seems unlikely he has 4sxs, as people don't play 4s much and you have the As: anyway, you are slightly ahead versus that. Seems kind of bad for him to play a set that way. He could have 2-pair, but not that many combinations of that he is likely to play preflop.
At 15/30 he can defend BB 2,5 button bet with basically anything, his push seems super out of the line, so his range may aswell be any two. Even if we are vs TPTK we are not that good here.
12-04-2015 , 07:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr00123
At 15/30 he can defend BB 2,5 button bet with basically anything, his push seems super out of the line, so his range may aswell be any two. Even if we are vs TPTK we are not that good here.
But we have most draws crushed.
12-04-2015 , 10:44 AM
Here we have the result guyss...i think that the best deision of all its fold because we have deep stacks.. and we play 45 bb for a flushhhh...thank you guys all of you and i wish gl everywhere...

    Poker Stars, $4.10 Buy-in (15/30 blinds, 4 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37182842

    Hero (BTN): 2,151 (71.7 bb)
    SB: 924 (30.8 bb)
    BB: 1,363 (45.4 bb)
    UTG+1: 1,880 (62.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 1,589 (53 bb)
    MP1: 1,383 (46.1 bb)
    MP2: 2,225 (74.2 bb)
    MP3: 1,661 (55.4 bb)
    CO: 1,293 (43.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2 A
    6 folds, Hero raises to 75, SB folds, BB calls 45

    Flop: (201) J 4 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 90, BB raises to 1,284 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,194

    Turn: (2,769) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (2,769) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 2,769 pot
    Final Board: J 4 8 J 9
    Hero showed 2 A and lost (-1,363 net)
    BB showed J 8 and won 2,769 (1,406 net)



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    Last edited by lilantas; 12-04-2015 at 10:52 AM.
    12-04-2015 , 01:39 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by betgo
    Seems kind of bad for him to play a set that way
    Usually, but you cannot discount it completely especially if shover/Hero have history or shover knows Hero's tendencies. Probably no less than 5%, maybe a tick or three more.

          
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