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06-15-2015 , 11:48 PM
3bet overall was 3%. resteal 1/5. I have being stealing a fair amount, the bb 3bet once and i 4bet without showing. Villian had a short stack until doubling up just before this hand but my read hear is that he looking to stop me (semi) running over the table

PokerStars - $3.19+$0.31|4000/8000 Ante 800 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 289,108
BTN: 233,832 (VPIP: 25.96, PFR: 19.59, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 106)
SB: 120,714 (VPIP: 23.65, PFR: 22.45, 3Bet Preflop: 17.24, Hands: 149)
BB: 187,285 (VPIP: 16.61, PFR: 12.48, 3Bet Preflop: 9.31, Hands: 584)
UTG: 111,061 (VPIP: 19.37, PFR: 16.08, 3Bet Preflop: 10.05, Hands: 540)

5 players post ante of 800, SB posts SB 4,000, BB posts BB 8,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 16,000) Hero has A Q

fold, Hero raises to 16,000, BTN raises to 36,000, fold, fold, [color=red][b]Hero???
06-16-2015 , 05:57 PM
No reason not to flat here
06-17-2015 , 04:39 PM
If he's been short for a lot of the 106 hand sample then he wouldn't have been able to 3-bet during that time so the stat is misleading.

I think a flat is fine.
06-18-2015 , 12:56 AM
raise to 20 000, dont r/c in this spot, we'll be OOP in a huge pot, without initiative, big stack vs 2nd stack

as played, 4b shove

sick spot
06-19-2015 , 11:41 AM
This is a spot that can only be solved with the dynamics that happened at the table. ICMwise, and sticking to the stats we have with no further interpretation, we can only shove here profitabily with KK or AA.

Nevertheless, if we take into consideration what LektorAJ said of him being unable to 3bet due to his stack size and the dynamics you suggest of him trying to stop you from running over the table, we might accept his 3bet range is misleading and hence consider on shoving wider.

I dont like flatting that much because of what mktpppr said of playing OOP a huge pot vs 2nd biggest stack and without initiative.

Id go for a shove mainly because of ICM reasons: there are two stacks between 12 and 15bbs and you got him covered, so we can put max pressure here and he might even fold a hand as good as 99 or TT.
Besides, were not in terrible shape if we get called by something like QQ, KK or AK, well have, at least, 3 outs.
06-20-2015 , 04:56 AM
Will he really 3bet/call of with AT or AJ ? With his 3bet he prolly has to call if sb jams it in, this plus the fact that he 3bets vs the big stack, i think he is pretty polarized , TT or JJ he might even flat due to stack size. I think a 4bet is basically a bluff, so i think a fold would be best, unless he is full of **** often, but u dont have that read or stats to comfirm that, nit fold
06-24-2015 , 12:20 PM
I think flatting here is terrible. As mentioned you're oop and haven't got the lead in a big pot. I also don't think we should be folding AQs. You've got him covered and there's two stacks on 15bb or less. Assuming he's aware of ICM he can't call a jam here with anything less than AK, JJ+. If you think he's got a lot of hands in his three bet range (you said you think he's trying to slow you down a bit after running the show), then his fold to 4 bet in this spot is going to be high and you're going to be making profit.
I'm 4-bet jamming here to apply max pressure and make him play for his tournament life.
06-25-2015 , 01:58 AM
If we're flatting here it's not to play fit and fold OOP without the initiative after he c-bets 100% on the flop.

What we do is we check to him and on most flops shove all in over his c-bet. He has to fold too much.

      
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