tPokerStars - $13.77+$1.23|500/1000 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 17.16 BB
CO: 5.33 BB (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 29)
BTN: 8.07 BB (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 22.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
SB: 16.41 BB (VPIP: 28.24, PFR: 19.48, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 85)
BB: 7.63 BB (VPIP: 14.42, PFR: 12.22, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 105)
UTG: 5.62 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
UTG+1: 2.44 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)

7 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.2 BB) Hero has T T

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.18 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 6 BB, fold, fold



Tricky spot. Felt tight in game. The dynamics was I was chip leader but still only playing 17/19 tight image I raise from H/j with the stack sizes Villain can assume I'm r/c most shoves as most at table have small stacks. Villain is second in chips I can make a tight fold and still be 2nd in chips on table (I didn't check other table but when I folded I went to 3rd in chips.

I felt I had edge over the table as a whole.

Villain seams reggy so I can assume he is aware of our BF with so many small stacks present. r/f 1010 form H/j felt weak but would I have any fe on a shove.? Would villain have a 3bet fold here at such a shallow depth due to BF. (probably not I thought)

Is r/f tens here massively exploitable. is any one going to do it?

yes, hugely.

I always r/c this with a smile on my face, but if you are worried about BF that much just ship it pre.

Firstly thanks for responding, someone playing your volume taking the time to comment is appreciated.

A few questions/points.

When you say call. do you mean call? I know we are in position but we are not going to like many flops and we are rather shallow. I thought this was going to be a shove or fold spot?

If you do mean call are we calling donk shoves on what boards are we c bet shoving on what flops.

regarding open shoving. Isn't this losing value from 3 of the 4 stacks I'm raising into. I think r/c vs this 3 gets action from lower pairs I crush a10 and maybe some axs. A lot of these will just fold to my shove. When I r/c this and they have 2 overcards I'm a slight favourite in terms of cEV and our BF is closer to 1 and we have the anti subsidy on the shallow collision. Also a few of these over card combo's would of called a shove anyway.

As played do we think a shove by us after his 3 bet would have any FE at all? I mean he shouldn't 3 bet fold at this depth, but well he can if he knew I was folding tens right.

What range do we put him on? what range does he put me on? I play a little tighter then you I think. ( also villain must know I'm r/c 3/4 at least of the people I'm raising into)

Maybe I'm just in the mindset of looking at BF as a hindrance rather then a tool. I mean I am chip leader (just). Also I guess I didn't factor if I win the collision the table abuse id be allowing.

Also Even though r/f tens here is exploitable its unlikely villain has/will ever encounter me again in a high BF collision 7 handed that isn't the FT.

i was talking about calling AI. Im happy to gii with this here.

There is no loosing value this shortstacked. You are under 20bb with the whole table. TT is the nuts in this spot. I prefer r/c TT but shoving 1st in is good too.

sb is jamming here 22+ suited broadways, KJo+ and A9s+ A5s I guess. At least he should do so. To not allow him to reshove this wide, you could just open shove this.

By raising you create profitable spot for anyone at the table to jam and put YOU in a BF spot. Like I said, if you dont want to r/c, just ship it

Ok im a million miles away on this spot.

My range for him is much tighter something like 88+ aqo maybe ajs. This could be from me not being used to the table as a whole being this shallow.

Also your last point I don't understand. You say raising allow's everyone else to shove and put me in a BF spot? I'm calling everyones elses shoves even multiway. Our BF with everyone besides villain is much closer to 1. I can call them and high five the cat. the fact I'm raising into so many with a range that is going to be more r/c dominated the r/f means my range is a lot tighter and therefore so should villains shove?

I'm a bit worried how I can be so far off on this spot. maybe I need to work on my shallower spots before I open any more of these.

What would your r/f range look like. Maybe the big difference is in part to my tighter style and not bullying in high ICM situations?

r/c anything that I open against anyone except sb.

vs sb i would r/c 77+ ATs+ AJo+ KQs if he's reg.

vs random 88+ AJs+ AQo+ seems fine unless he's aggro

I would just jam or fold everything here with CSI of 6 against SB and CSI of 1-3 against everyone else.

As played his 3-bet not all in looks nutted, but I still don't think I fold TT in game. Jam and see if he folds.

Taking this as a purely theoretical question, it depends on the rest of your range. If you are jamming most hands and only min-raising TT+, AKs then it's not exploitable as long as you are calling enough of the rest.

r/c > shove >>>>>>> fold > r/f imo