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07-27-2012, 08:18 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2011
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15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
Q7s looks like a shove to me(?) but how wide are you here shoving here exactly?
Poker Stars $13.78+$1.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 6 players - View hand 1836579
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
SB: t3017 M = 4.02
BB: t10600 M = 14.13
UTG: t3862 M = 5.15
MP: t1738 M = 2.32
CO: t4349 M = 5.80
Hero (BTN): t5393 M = 7.19
Pre Flop: (t750) Hero is BTN with Q  7
3 folds, Hero
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07-27-2012, 08:27 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
stats/reads on the blinds?
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07-27-2012, 11:29 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: best to live lightly,unthinkingly
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
two superstandard guys. no regs or maniacs, playing 22/10 and 18/9 or something.
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07-27-2012, 12:19 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: They see my trollin', they hatin'
Posts: 3,655
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
Min raise if the blinds aren't going up for a few more minutes, fold if they are. The reg-fish are the ones shoving ATC from the button, the SB, and UTG when short, and playing ****ty-nitty in all other positions.
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07-27-2012, 06:26 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,963
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
seems like a clear jam to me, Q7s is a pretty powerfull holding in this position.
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07-27-2012, 07:19 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maracaibo, Venezuela
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
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Originally Posted by Pghfan987
Min raise if the blinds aren't going up for a few more minutes, fold if they are. The reg-fish are the ones shoving ATC from the button, the SB, and UTG when short, and playing ****ty-nitty in all other positions.
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So your plan its to r/c the SB and r/f BB w/Q7s? Seems kind of marginal. Q7s its a bit too strong to r/f and too weak to r/c anybody and pushing its unexplotable, beside we´re only pushing 13bb/14bb into one guy, in fact Q7s its not even a marginal push, im pushing pretty much any suited broadway
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Originally Posted by martin_malin
seems like a clear jam to me, Q7s is a pretty powerfull holding in this position.
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+1
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07-27-2012, 07:52 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: They see my trollin', they hatin'
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
Fish regs only MR AA, KK here.
TBH I don't really wanna discuss further, I always feel torn between discussing hands in depth with good players and teaching the fish and bad regs. So many regs have absolutely no idea how to play poker, they think the only options with less than 20 BBs is to shove or fold, or maybe limp KK+.
If I was going to play one hand for the rest of my life, yea, I might shove here. But there are other considerations here. And not just balancing our range.
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07-27-2012, 08:10 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maracaibo, Venezuela
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
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Originally Posted by Pghfan987
TBH I don't really wanna discuss further
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So basically you´re saying if people dont agree with you u just stop posting/commenting/debating?
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I always feel torn between discussing hands in depth with good players and teaching the fish and bad regs.
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07-28-2012, 01:46 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Shut Eye Country
Posts: 1,750
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
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Originally Posted by Pghfan987
Fish regs only MR AA, KK here.
TBH I don't really wanna discuss further, I always feel torn between discussing hands in depth with good players and teaching the fish and bad regs. So many regs have absolutely no idea how to play poker, they think the only options with less than 20 BBs is to shove or fold, or maybe limp KK+.
If I was going to play one hand for the rest of my life, yea, I might shove here. But there are other considerations here. And not just balancing our range.
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Ditto brother.
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07-28-2012, 12:08 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 42
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
ship ship ship
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07-28-2012, 03:09 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 780
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
No one MR folding this to unknowns? Still got 13bbs.
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04-14-2013, 07:44 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vagrant/Worcestershire,UK
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
how bad is folding? you are 2/6 and SB will probs get it in.
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04-14-2013, 08:31 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,192
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
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Originally Posted by Pghfan987
Fish regs only MR AA, KK here.
TBH I don't really wanna discuss further, I always feel torn between discussing hands in depth with good players and teaching the fish and bad regs. So many regs have absolutely no idea how to play poker, they think the only options with less than 20 BBs is to shove or fold, or maybe limp KK+.
If I was going to play one hand for the rest of my life, yea, I might shove here. But there are other considerations here. And not just balancing our range.
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04-14-2013, 10:50 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,495
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
shiipum but im a reg fish!
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04-14-2013, 05:51 PM
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brighton, UK
Posts: 1,056
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Re: 15$/45m btn spot with Q7s
Jamming isn't too bad, but isn't necessary. Listen to Pghfan987.
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