How do you play here ?

http://weaktight.com/4882838

id either raise/fold or fold depending of their reshove ranges.
If you think they might reshove wide id fold. if they reshove tight, minraise/fold.
i dont think raise/call or openjam should be an option here but i could be wrong

definitely r/f if there hasn't been much 3betting.

Never r/c, it's ICM suicide no matter how wide they are reshoving.

If they love to 3bet, its kinda meh between open folding and open shoving. I suspect an open shove will be pretty close to neutral $ev, but haven't run the numbers.

i think they need to be kinda nitty for us to jam there. And given their stats, plus the fact that theres a fish with a big stack, i think we cant openjam imo

Ahhh just saw the notes at the top of the HH, didn't see those reads before.

Yeah given SBs stats an open-jam probably isn't good.

shoving is optimal

Well I'd want to know how often they 3-bet. If it isn't that often then you can just open with plans to fold to a (less likely) 3bet, or just play it by ear postflop if flatted.

If they do 3bet alot, then I think I like just jamming better than open folding, but with ICM it's probably close? IDK I'm rusty.

Shove

i dont remember the 3bet stats but it was really hard figuring out what to do ... i open shoved here but i still think my stack was a bit to big for open shoving here. arf tough decision will check the 3bet stats next time !

Dont mind openshoving versus a fish who has prolly tight(er) call-ranges.

this

Never this, vs TAG/NIT callign ranges r/f its even a more optimall move cuz there´s no value on open pushing if you´re getting called and 3bet push on (when u open) by basically the same range of hands.

why is there no value of open jam?? its very +cev we have a pair 3handed!!

Why are we interested in cev when we're 3 handed? Im not saying a jam is bad, but it's not good because it's +cev.

Not becuase a play its +cEV u should take it and also doesnt mean there isnt a more optimall way to play a hand i say there´s no value on open pushing vs NIT/TAG villains cuz their calling ranges and their 3bet all in ranges (in the hipotheticall escenario if we open raise) are basically the same, so why risk the tournament when you´re getting the same profitability in terms of potential chips gain in the long run by r/f?