Villain is playing loose pre but giving up a lot post, so I flat in position whereas I normally wouldn't.

Should I raise this flop with the club draw and masses of overcards, or are we too weak with 3rd kicker?

Turn, we seem not to have a good value target so I check behind - maybe I should bet here though to get value from weaker 9s and the club draw?

River, Our J kicker no longer plays (I didn't actually realise that in game) he's not repping an A or a 5, so should we bet, but how much is he going to pay off (and with what?)

preflop: fold, don't flat vs 3x, even with your reads, and we're not super deep, playing without initiative sucks too, also we have to fold vs a squeeze

flop: as played, ok

turn: as played, ok

river: as played, just check behind

Pre: I'd be fine with the call on btn, maaaaaybe CO, but in MP there's just too many people left to act. As you move up in stakes you'll run into more aggro 3bets and squeezes, and you'll have to throw this away, burning 3BB.

Post you played it fine. Check the river. There should be almost 0% chance he has a worse 9, so there's no value to be had. He may have 66-88 (will prob fold so no value), TT-KK that hated the A but you'd have to barrel T and R to get them off it reliably and that's high variance (since he won't always fold them), or missed broadway that you beat and won't pay you anyway. It looks like he was 1-and-done once the A hit.

If he had a club draw he prob should have bet the turn, semi-bluff while repping the A, so I don't expect to see that in his range too often. Even if the club came in, if it was a low one I don't think it would scare me too much.

These SNGs are profitable if grinded massiveley. The more tables you play and the more sits you play a day the bigger the profit in the long run. If youre playing just one table can understand this flats but you have to understand that SNGs are not mean for this type of plays nor to be played one at a time: you gotta play pretty straightforward (specially preflop) and develop a solid game that will let you get away with a decent winrate on the long term and will let you multitable without many complicated decisions.

All this explanation comes because I dont think is a good move to flat J9s regardless of the read you have on your opponent. I would only flat this if Im in the BB because Id be getting good odds to do so.

Now as played, I wont never raise the flop, even though we might get called by some clubs draws we wont get called by anything worse, only overpairs, two pairs, sets or overpairs so is pointless. Same thing applies to turn. On the river Id go for thin value but you gotta bet small to give the worse 9s, smaller pairs and hero calls the right price to call, something around 180 id say.

Last two posts - agree but you realise we are chopping with worse jacks now the board has paired, right?

I think you meant worse 9s. I still think he turns up wth them very infrequently, and I'm not looking at that board and basing my bet on the chance he had T9/98/97 and I can push him off it.

IMHO when you play SCs and one gappers, you're not really playing them to hit a pair. You're looking to flop 2P or a huge draw, and pairing the board is a nice bit of backup showdown value.

^ Ok but what are we expecting to get called by that we beat? It's a case where we don't really have a value target so I think we have to bet small to get called by a 3 or some other pocket pair that doesn't believe us.

As played I bet 178. He turned over Q9, then I had a wtf moment as when they shipped half the pot to me and I realised it was actually a chop.

Well, virtually nothing. That's why I said I'd check the river.

Right, sorry.