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0.50 - TT one of the first hands 0.50 - TT one of the first hands

03-29-2014 , 06:53 AM
PokerStars - $0.45+$0.05|15/30 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: 1,220.00
Hero (UTG+1): 1,480.00
MP: 1,430.00
MP+1: 1,980.00
CO: 1,000.00
BTN: 1,550.00
SB: 1,240.00
BB: 3,600.00

SB posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00

Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has T T

fold, Hero raises to 90.00, MP calls 90.00, fold, fold, BTN calls 90.00, fold, BB calls 60.00

Flop: (375.00, 4 players) 4 5 5
BB checks, Hero bets 150.00, MP calls 150.00, fold, fold

Turn: (675.00, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (675.00, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, MP bets 300.00, Hero calls 300.00


It was like the 3rd hand at the table so no stats yet, other than that villain didn't seem crazy.
Did I play this hand ok? Could I have done anything better?

Pretty sure I should have bet more on the flop?
03-29-2014 , 08:34 AM
looks fine.
03-29-2014 , 10:03 AM
perfectly played imo

At these limits and on first hands you could be way ahead on flop/turn/river you could be way behind.

I love the cbet and the c/c turn river.
Flop bet was fine. mayyybe I bet 200-250 but don't think it changes much
03-29-2014 , 10:13 AM
I think I like going bigger on the flop and barreling the turn. I'd probably c/c the river because he can only really have a few Qx combos on the river and he would have to have a heart or a 9 to get to the river with a worse hand so there's a lot of missed hearts/weak 9's that have a hard time calling a 3rd bet but can bet when checked to, either for thin value or as a bluff.

I don't hate your line but what's your plan on the turn? Can you really c/f here? If you aren't c/f are you going to just c/f all rivers? I guess c/r works ok vs the Ah. Idk, checking turn opens us up to villain owning us and I think that we get more money out of value betting the turn than trying to bluff catch vs a vast majority of players, and I definitely don't see enough evidence to suggest that we can just outright c/f the turn.
03-29-2014 , 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by emitnulB
I think I like going bigger on the flop and barreling the turn. I'd probably c/c the river because he can only really have a few Qx combos on the river and he would have to have a heart or a 9 to get to the river with a worse hand so there's a lot of missed hearts/weak 9's that have a hard time calling a 3rd bet but can bet when checked to, either for thin value or as a bluff.

I don't hate your line but what's your plan on the turn? Can you really c/f here? If you aren't c/f are you going to just c/f all rivers? I guess c/r works ok vs the Ah. Idk, checking turn opens us up to villain owning us and I think that we get more money out of value betting the turn than trying to bluff catch vs a vast majority of players, and I definitely don't see enough evidence to suggest that we can just outright c/f the turn.
I either have the best hand here and villain has nothing, or villain has a monster I'm almost never beating.
So if I bet the turn or river, I'm only getting called by hands that have me seriously dominated. I'll almost never get value out of an extra bet anywhere.

Just checking to villain opens the opportunity for him to make a mistake.

If I would have bet the turn or river and got raised, I would have to fold.

I'm almost never folding to his river bet, unless he goes 600+ not sure what I'd do then!
03-29-2014 , 10:59 AM
Yeah but what about when he bets the turn?
03-29-2014 , 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by emitnulB
Yeah but what about when he bets the turn?
I'd say I'd fold since I don't want to play for my stack with an overpair in this situation
03-29-2014 , 11:58 AM
Congratz on being a nit.

Btw, if you're checking in the hopes of him making a mistake on the turn, how do you take advantage of his mistakes when you c/f the turn? This is why it makes little sense to check your hand here imo. When you check you always end up folding unless you had the best hand, and if you had the best hand you get the minimum amount of value while allowing your opponent to realize his equity.

Last edited by emitnulB; 03-29-2014 at 12:09 PM.
03-29-2014 , 12:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by emitnulB
Congratz on being a nit.

Btw, if you're checking in the hopes of him making a mistake on the turn, how do you take advantage of his mistakes when you c/f the turn? This is why it makes little sense to check your hand here imo. When you check you always end up folding unless you had the best hand, and if you had the best hand you get the minimum amount of value while allowing your opponent to realize his equity.
what hands do you think villain is betting with that I have beat?
pretty sure being a nit is exactly what you're supposed to be at the micro stakes
03-29-2014 , 01:01 PM
OP you're correct. At this stage of a 50c game, being a 'hero' is never going to be rewarding. Play correct for the first few limits and chips will fall into your lap
03-29-2014 , 09:20 PM
I don't think I'm folding if he bets turn.
03-29-2014 , 09:24 PM
No problem, I don't think it was played nitty at all.

.50c games there is no reason to bluff the heart on the turn, people are too curious and will call just to see if you have it.

I also wouldn't fold the turn facing a raise, I would be in check call mode.

The turn and river are both terrible cards for you but I am calling the river as you still have a playable stack after, but villain is showing up with KQ, AQ, Ax, a lot of the time in a microstakes game. I guesstimate you win this pot 1/3 times. Players have a lot of bluffs in their range early in a micro. A lot of suited cards too and any Ax.
03-30-2014 , 12:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
I don't think I'm folding if he bets turn.
That's why it's better to bet imo. When we check he can check back his low equity hands and take a free card to hit his outs or he can just bet and get our stack with all his better hands anyways. Checking seems really bad unless your plan is to fold the river getting like 3:1 when he shoves. I think that's hard to justify folding on most rivers though because if it's a heart then we have a flush, and if it's not a heart then he could have the busted flush draw. Maybe we can fold non-heart Aces on the river, but that's 3 cards... Imo we're better off betting turn and then deciding whether we can make more money by shoving river or c/c as a bluff catch.
03-30-2014 , 09:18 AM
well played sir. I don't think u need to change anything about the hand. Have to call the river bet as well.. Qx combos floating there is minimal and u certainly will be ahead of his range there for sure. I like ur sizing as well..wp..
03-31-2014 , 02:51 AM
I think i played the same

      
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