Pretty sure this is a super standard shove, just making sure since there was a lot of short stacks - i.e. my position was 3/10. Also I got it in good + the guy was playing pretty LAG (look at stats) saw him do this ridiculous 4x raise from LP with K4s before. Anyway, I don't think it's possible to fold TT here just to wait for the short stacks to bust (?)

PokerStars - $0.45+$0.05|3000/6000 Ante 600 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 8.02 BB (VPIP: 31.58, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 9.6 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 15)
CO: 2.78 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
BTN: 15.43 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 26.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (SB): 11.28 BB

5 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has T T

fold, fold, BTN raises to 4 BB, Hero raises to 11.18 BB and is all-in, fold, BTN calls 7.18 BB

Flop: (23.86 BB, 2 players) 2 2 5

Turn: (23.86 BB, 2 players) Q

River: (23.86 BB, 2 players) 6

Hero shows T T (Two Pair, Tens and Twos)
(Pre 57%, Flop 72%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows Q A (Two Pair, Queens and Twos)
(Pre 43%, Flop 28%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins 23.86 BB

I'm pretty ignorant to ICM atm but i think its def a shove if hes raising 4x with k4s you're well ahead of a range, im just unsure how the heavily the small stacks impact it but i think its still going to be a shove

You have no fold equity, so just consider his raise as a 11BB effective shove. He should be shoving 30-40% of his hands just going by push/fold chart (which he is considering you saw him open with K4s before). You have 64% equity against 30% shoving range with TT so it's a clear shove for value.

If you feel he has tightened up his range considerably than it's a fold. If you feel he has the same looseness than it's a shove. You have to be ~70% against his range since he has you covered.

Lol so you're saying "go with your gut" ? Since he's been active and loose the whole time I've sat with him at the table and I've seen him go crazy with K4s a few hands ago, I don't think there's a possibility I can fold TT here, expecting him to have TT+. Of course it's possible, but a risk you have to take. I mean at this point I'm almost calling a nit here with TT since I need all the chips to win, this spot looks pretty good to me. Also since he's been playing LAG and he raises 4x from LP, it could easily be bullying also, since everyone's holding on to their chips on the FT bubble.

No, I'm saying you put him on a range where you're ~70%+ equity against his. Did you not read my last sentence on my post. I guess not. When there's a short stack at the table, ICM tax is very high and your range becomes very narrow because of that.

And yes, I go with my gut when it comes to guessing people's ranges. How else do I play?

I'm giving sound advice here and I'm being laughed at. Alright buddy. I won't frequent your threads anymore.

First of all, how do you calculate your "70% equity against his range" ? Villain is an aggrofish so his range is wide as hell, might be literally holding any two cards. I've seen him shove once with AJo, and then the K4s hand, which I told you about, + his stats being 42/26 his certainly playing junk, right?. Given all this info you still think TT is a fold here? I'm not sure what we are afraid of here, we're pretty much a favorite against everything, the times he has TT+ are so rare we can't pass up on this spot. The 2 other comments seem to think this is a shove, other players who I've asked say this is a clear shove, and as I said myself, I though this was really standard. Also I play to win, so I'm rather taking this "risk" than getting blinded out and hoping to make it is far as possible or have to shove some junk without any fold equity later. What comes to ICM, I think if I would've won this hand, I would've guaranteed at least 2nd place, with super bad luck 3rd. If I just pass up on spots because there's these idiot fish who gets blinded out I'm letting their weak play affect my play in a negative way. Also, ICM is more considerable in some MTT's or at higher stakes where the payjumps are significant, I don't think we can fold TT here to (hopefully) win 1$ more.

I don't know if we're talking about the same kind of "gut", but as poker is a game of incomplete information, which you have to use to try to put your opponent on a hand/range of hands, and in this case we have "extra" information provided by my HUD you analyze the facts and try to make the right choice. There's no "gut" involved here, just reasonable thinking and putting pieces together. Of course you have to take a guess, because you can never really know what your opponent is holding, so if that's what you mean then yes of course, but if you play by your gut rather than by logical conclusions based on the information given, you must be terrible.

Also, who the **** makes that big a deal just because I said "lol". For the record it doesn't mean your being laughed at, and at this sites arguments are what we come here for, so stop acting like a little girl.