Yeah that mace is really nice, does anywhere from 5-12+% of my healing depending on the fight (think it does a little over 12 on H Ultraxion).

I'm not sure how much server economies differ on this, but 5k for boots would be a pretty bad deal on my server. I bought my bracers for 1.5k and boots for 2k. Those were both v. good deals though.

Damn, almost one-shot H Warmaster, but we have 3 people in that weren't in on our kill last week so phase 2 was really sloppy and we took forever to get the dragon to go away. Next few pulls after that were really sloppy, we've only got a couple pulls left for tonight. Would be really nice to go 6/8 H in 2 hours, don't know if it's gonna happen though.

Yep, didn't happen, attempts went downhill after that first one. Oh well, still not bad for only 2 hours

I'm not sure how I feel about it though. I just used it in a Twilight Heroic. I lost the haste from my staff, Stalk of Corruption.

Overall, it's an increase in Stamina, Intellect, Spirit, and Spell Power, small loss in Mastery (-1), and big loss in Haste.

I guess breaking it down it's actually superior to the staff. One thing I've been trying to go for is the haste to speed up my casts.

With my VP boots, I put on the Quick Amberjewel for +40 Haste. With the staff that helped me by .1 second, but now with the mace/OH, I'm back to the same place I was before.

Which brings me to another question -- looking at ElitistJerks, they say to go with the Reckless Ember Topaz (20int,20haste) for the yellow slot. They have the Quick Amberjewel on there, but it's not marked as *Recommended. Should I go with the Reckless instead? The QA was actually the cheapest so I went with that. I figure I can sell something and make that money back and go with something else if I change my mind later.

My thinking is that if the +40 haste isn't really going to change my casting time, then at least get more intellect.

Maxdps.com says to get the Artful Ember (20int,20mast), but I tend to lean more towards EJ for their recommendations.

Any advice?

They regularly sell for 4.5-5k. I checked the AH and there was one for 5k so I took a shot and asked in trade chat for 4.5k and someone responded in a matter of seconds. I've never seen them go for any lower. Last week I tried getting someone to selling them to me for 4k and they wouldn't do it.

Bracers usually go 4k.

It's going to be far weaker in a 5-man setting than a 10-man (and it's pretty weak in 10-mans compared to 25s). It's almost definitely going to be better to use something else in 5-mans.


You pretty much never want to use a gem that doesn't have your primary stat on it (which, in this case, is int). It is so rarely worth it to give up 20 of your primary stat for an extra 20 of a secondary stat, that you just shouldn't touch any blue or yellow gems. If you want to match a yellow socket, use an orange gem, and if you want to match a blue socket, use a purple gem.

So stick with my staff then? I was going to run LFR DS again this week to see if there was a difference, but I guess there would be when that mace procs and I heal everyone in the raid.

With all of the stats though, it just seems like the mace is far better. I can deal with the decrease in haste. I don't know how much that makes a difference. Running heroics I almost fall asleep sometimes. haha

The VP Boots have a red and yellow so I should probably get the Reckless then.

Good advice. Thanks.

If the mace plus whatever off-hand you have has more total int than the staff, then go with the mace + off-hand. This might not be exactly true for other healing classes, I don't know too too much about anything besides resto druids, but typically whatever gives you more int will be better.

If the difference in int is really small though, it might be better to go with the staff.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...anyde/advanced

Basically all the secondary stats, haste / mastery / crit are equal in value for a disc priest (and close to equal for holy). You can stack haste if you prefer, but you should never downgrade items to seek it out.

Also splitting your weapons out to MH/OH gives you the ability to add a +40 int enchant which you wouldn't get otherwise, so when comparing your staff to mace you should take that into consideration.

I am logged out in my pve gear if you want an idea of how to gear / enchant / reforge.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...anyde/advanced

Basic rule of gemming is that you go pure int, unless the socket bonus gives you back the int you would lose by going orange/purple.

ie:
If there is a +20 int socket bonus and 1 blue slot, then you use an Int/Spirit gem
If there is a +20 int socket bonus and 1 yellow slot, then you use an Int/Haste gem

I ended up switching out that gem. Right now I'm only gemming the gear that I think I'll be holding onto for awhile, like my 397 gear. The LFR gear is a close call since sometimes the VP gear is better. I do enchants when I can though since I'm maxed on enchanting.

As far as the stat differences, they are:

Stamina +23
Intellect +15 (+55 with enchant)
Spirit +19 (Reforged Spirit on my Staff)
Spell Power +273
Mastery -1
Haste Rating -265
+Mace Proc.

A guy in my guild was talking about some +100 Int enchant for the OH, but I haven't been able to find anything about that.

@krimson: I notice you have Heartsong on your staff. EJ recommends Power Torrent, although it's close. I was actually going to go with Power Torrent since my Spirit seems to be fine at this point. Thoughts?

Yeah, I should have mentioned that. i am just holding out for a 384 weapon before I put power torrent on. Power Torrent is BiS and I do use it on my pvp gear. (I am a PvP'er more so then PvE'er so I sometimes skip the expensive enchants on my pve gear).

There is no +100 int off hand enchant, they changed it from +100 to +40 a long time ago (4.0.6?).

edit: Also, spell power > haste so that mace is an upgrade even if you completely ignore the proc.

You take twisted faith no matter what. there is no talent that you could get instead that would give a larger DPS boost than the 2% shadow dmg boost from twisted faith.

Power Torrent + Lightweave Embroidery is pretty sick. They seem to proc at the same time giving me an increase in 19k mana. I don't know the dps change yet, though.

I love the Power Torrent enchant animation on my mace. Rotates between orange, purple, green, and blue flames.

God, **** Warmaster..took another 2 hours to kill him tonight, and just like last night our best attempt (until our kill) was the first attempt.

Got in 2 Spine attempts before I had to leave (4 technically but 2 of them were really short and don't really count at all), can't wait to look at the logs in the morning to see how far they can or can't get without me in there. They're basically losing 10k hps, so I would be a bit surprised if they can even make it past the first plate to be honest, but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Well its good to know I wont be losing my spot on H Spine anytime soon, not like I was worried about that before though. They had tons of problems after I left, only killed the first tendon on one attempt and they wiped right after that.

That doesn't really bode well for us getting it down anytime soon though

So, I'm looking to get into a new MMO after playing FFXI on and off for 8 years. How hard is it to start from scratch, learn game dynamics, and get into the flow of endgame if I were to pick it up (considering how long it's been out for).