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Here's the latest simcraft results for single target deeps:




Also, here's the link to the relatively recent blizz Q&A on Enhance Sham...I mean dps.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2721582834


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Going back to the boomkin talk


I think the reason I read people saying not to hardcast starsurge in lunar eclipse or when headed to solar eclipse is because it only gives you 15 solar energy compared to starfire's 20. So you end up needing 1 extra starfire/SS cast to get into solar eclipse.

It makes sense to me intuitively, though I don't understand why you would only cast starsurge in lunar eclipse if shooting stars procs, since my starsurge is at 1.7 seconds (1.5 with NG), so there's barely a difference between hardcasting and casting with the proc (and no difference at all with NG). If you cast 1 starsurge per lunar eclipse, you still get 5 starfires under lunar eclipse, plus the 1 starsurge, so that could be a slight dps boost.

I don't know, it makes sense to me to try getting a starsurge in during lunar eclipse, but I'm not getting why I read you should only do it if shooting stars procs. I'll try getting it in during lunar regardless of procs and see how that works out.

Thanks for the info about dots

I think the reason you'd only cast it off of procs in Lunar is because a lunar buffed Starfire now hits harder than Starsurge.

That'd be my guess anyway.

Many many people in my guild are failing at their classes, given I'm a fury/prot warrior in 362 gear and usually top the DPS charts on most fights.

The Blizzard raid frames came back with the patch. How do I get rid of them? I can't find it in the Interface options.

You don't like being able to tell someone's class, health remaining, and distance from you with a single glance?

You should be able to disable it in the newly wonky raid frames screen.

I think it's more he has Grid or something similar installed making it redundant.

I was trying to figure out how to get rid of it myself the other day. If anyone figures it out, let me know.

You can always hide it..?

Grid tells me all those things. I'm used to it and it takes up less space.

And this is the DPS thread anyway, we don't need to pay attention to extraneous things like what our group is doing. Just melt faces and pick up loot, yo. :P

I believe alt+z is the default 'hide ui' combo

I do, it just leaves the obnoxious little side bar that makes my UI less pretty.

Its really satisfying getting a few gear upgrades and watching yourself go up and up on the damage meters.

There are no Darkmoon cards up on Alterac Mountains right now. Can anyone make one and how much would they sell one for? It's still BiS for Arcane Mages and right now my Mage's trinkets suck.

If people would bloody hurry up and transfer like they said they were going to.. >.>

I've logged on a few times, transferred my paladin, but it's hard to tell who is from 2+2 and who is from the original guild.

People should put their 2+2 SN in their guild notes =D

We did ask people to put their transfer names in the transfer thread. = /

I understand wanting to know who is who, though, as a number of the non-2+2 guild members are fairly bad. There's a really good resto druid, though, so we should try to keep him happy. Most of the tanks and dps, sadly, are pretty fail.

Also, I'm still waiting to talk to berks about getting GM for the guild for a minute so's I can get things set up to be helpful to raiding (and so I know who to promote to what, etc).

If you have any questions about who is who, just ask the 3rd in command, the kitty officer.

Hi, for a ret paladin whats the best way to gem for a chest? I'm already hit and expertise capped.

Its got a red slot and a blue slot, with a +20 strength bonus for correct sockets. Red is obviously the +40 strength gem. Do I go with +40 hit rating blue gem and reforge to get to the hit cap again and get the +20 strength bonus or just plug in another +40 strength gem.

+20 strength bonus is too big to pass up imo. You can always throw a purple or green gem in there to bump up some of your other stats.

Think about it this way: you can throw a +20 str +20 whatever purple or green gem in that slow and end with with the same amount a strength you would have had with a bold inferno, +20 of another useful stat.

Obviously you should use str/hit and reforge away excess hit from gear

how vital is it that retadins be hit capped, anyhow? They need spell hit capped?

Just melee cap.

Kk thanks for advice. Gem bonus and reforging it is.

All I have to do now is find an enchanter to do his magic to my gear. I'll probably get round to that when I find a good guild to help.

Boomchicken is tough.

Seems like hitting lunar eclipse requires insect swarm before moonfire to get max benefit, but sunfire before insect swarm in solar. Also having good luck getting off a swarm/moonfire right before lunar eclipse goes off, but not the same for solar. Maybe I'm just not paying enough attention, which this spec seems to require.

I think (and I could definitely be wrong, but I think) you pretty much always want to use IS before MF/SF, because MF does more damage so you want that to get the benefit of nature's grace so it can do even more, not IS.

Well the debuff seems to show that IS does more dmg than MF/SF, but in lunar eclipse MF is buffed, while SF/IS are both buffed for solar. I would think that means IS is the bigger priority for NG during solar. I could be wrong though.

Everything I've read has just talked about putting IS up first, I've never seen anything about doing it the opposite way during solar.

IS might do more damage per tick, but maybe ticks at a slower rate or something? Or are you talking about the total damage?