Just reading over Pokerscout Lock poker and the Revolution Network has lost 40% of its players over the last 7 months.According to Pokerscouts statistcis.Lock poker could not process withdraws and keep up to date with players payments even when their site was doing well.Now that they lost a lot of players and lets be honest the way players are leaving in a few months this site and maybe the network will be closed.As a online poker player I want to warn players about lock as they are now resorting to every scumbag measure they can to steal players funds and try to somehow stay afloat.Do not deposit at this site it is just getting to the point where they should be put in jail.

Well, at least we'll find out the truth quickly. If it was processing problems with no liquidity problems, the cashout times are bound to be improved soon because with less players playing, less cashouts to process obviously (although i'm sure they did get a big influx some weeks ago from people trying to leave the site altogether), but once those are cleared..

If it was liquidity problems all along, we're ****ed

we've known this for ages, the number 1 rule is the customer is always right! unless your a bunch of scammers then they totally ignore everything you say. Even now they will deny there is liquidity problems when many skins have already spoken out, combine that with the scam play technology then the picture is clear to the intuitive.

The problem with cashouts is simply not having funds to make the withdraws to players.And if you lose 40% of your daily rake and tournament fees from players no it will not get better that's like saying every poker site should just get a lot smaller to avoid problems.They don't have the cashflow to honor the withdraws and now that they are losing players at a rapid pace and have to pay signed pros and all the promos its a sinking ship and any1 can see it is from a mile away

Yet people still play on there.

Exactly people moan but yet they still play on the network, whereas I just follow the forum info to see if they actually ever will sort out the major issues, doubtful they will like.

I was able to get set up on Intertops, have quit playing on Lock.

PokerScout.com 6 month graph shows Revolution traffic tanking, so, I guess lots of people are getting off the network!

You do realise if you're on Intertops you're on that very same network, right?

you do realize there on a seperate cashier lock shill

Here i was, thinking he was talking about traffic rather than $. But ok, point made, even if traffic dies out completely your money will close to 100% sure be safe on intertops, the same you won't see me saying about Lock.

And no, i didn't post this to 'prove' i'm not a Lock shill. I'm posting this because it's the exact same message i've always been propagating.

people who truly think mccormick is a shill are proof that there is indeed a lot of underaged gambling going on.

they are also the exact types of people i would not want near me or in my group of survivors in a zombie apocalypse. although in that scenario, there are things you can do to these tards.

I'm sure even kahn would confirm i'm no Lock shill if u asked him. He knows there was a time i played on Carbon and helped people with questions often in their subforum etc. Unless Lock somehow "bought me out" (well, i guess they did somewhat.. with their promotions )

All U.S. sites have long wait times so you would be saying they all are having money problems? I think Lock may have financial problems but there must be some big issue with the amount of withdraws they can put through processors.

Did I use the word shill in the wrong context yes. And my word of choice describing him in that sentence was poor to say the least.

Does Mccmormick post a lot of bull**** / half baked theories in Lock favor? Yes
Do you think Mccmorick would give 2 ****s if he hadn't won that promo where he exploited a system? Highly doubt it, or his tune would be a lot different.

And unless you offer some unique quality, why would I want to be in your zombie apocalypse group compared to any other Joe Schmoe on these forums. Hell I would take Mccormick over you at least he's creative in ways he attacks problems.

A simple search of all of Mccormick's posting history would show that his posts in the past as well as his recent posts have enough amount of honest criticism of lock that he would not qualify as "sucking up enough" to get special treatment.

your the dude who shotguns your best friend in the head cuz he has a papercut and may have gotten bitten/scratched!

i mean i could slightly understand the mob-like hate/accusations if mccormick all of a sudden stopped all criticism of lock after x date (promo is what your ufo theory is based on). but that is not the case (even in this very thread).

Too much of The Walking Dead for you sir. Last season truly sucked, I hope next is better.

I like what that chick did with her zombies, turn them into zombie mules and rip the arms and mouth out.

Been posting in this forum way longer than that, with the exact same 'tone'. Infact, go look up my history in the Carbon subforum. Used to post there loads one time too when i played there.

last episode was horrible. forced surprise ending.

Ya there is a big issue: They don't have the funds to withdraw all of the funds at once. I know it's crazy, but some sites are cheats. Think of Full Tilt and all of the stuff being said about it in the months leading up to BF. Some defended the site bc they don't think it's possible for such a large company to cheat, after all they are making billions right!? Now we have tons of people saying Lock is scum, except Shane who is being paid to disagree and back his employer. I don't know why people are so naive and gullible

If a site can't pay it's players and has a long wait period, that's a pretty obvious sign of a ponzi scheme. Given some of the threads I saw just browsing in here, I have no idea why any of you would continue playing on this site.

I actually think they do have the money to pay. I just think they have such a horrible reputation that not even the slimiest of processors will work with them.

Highly doubt it. The threads here are exhibiting the classic signs of a ponzi scheme collapsing. 40% of the players are leaving the site, the site cannot pay anyone and tells it's players it will be several months before they get paid. I bet players are hearing that same answer month after month since Lock is failing to bring in any of the new money needed to pay off players.

I really really wonder if people who post stuff like this even think for 5 seconds before posting.

Yes, as a business, let's pass up on millions of dollars because their reputation is far from perfect. Really, it's not at all how it works, especially not if said payment processor is illegally willing to process payments for an online poker site serving US customers in the first place. Do you really think THEY would care about the reputation about their customer?

After listening to the Elie we learn/comfirm what a slimball business processing truly is. We also learn that there appears to various degrees of dishonesty/integrity/reliablity among the providers.

Shane tells us they are adding/changing processors all the time. Why do you think that is-because they're either completely incompetent or stealing Lock's money. I'd guess most of this is the latter.

If you are the lowest slimball in an industry filled with slimballs, you'll truly be working with the absolute bottom of the barrel. So while you may be correct, they may not care about the reputation of their customer-they may just be among the last companies on Earth who will deal with them.

I'd imagine the situation of the processors blatantly stealing has only gotten exponentially worse considering the precarious situation that site operators are in.

You could listen to Elie's first interview like, what, years ago? and pretty much derive the same thing from it regarding the processors. I already knew this.