Yeah, it makes sense to ask a "liar" of a company which clearly not care about their customers and is insolvent for money.

In the country I was born and grown up illegal made money is never ever "your" money.

I understand insolvent as = unable to pay bills. Of course does insolvent not mean that they cannot pay out requests and when the player founds are segregated they can pay out all requests although being insolvent.
So what is the sense/advantage of your announcement that Lock is insolvent although being insolvent has nothing to do with not paying out requests?

As contracts doesnt play any role in your mind it´ll be probably difficult to find someone who is liable for "your" money.

Obviously you are unable to understand. As I stated before, you dont have any right to tell me what I have to do and what I have not to do.

Obviously you're the one who is unable to understand and that has been dragged through numerous threads by now.

You need to understand that your problem is with Lock or as you like to say "Cipaco". People on this forum are just trying to explain to you how difficult it would be for you to make your claim "if" Lock is insolvent.

So take it on with them and stop bashing the forum members who just reply to you to help out which seems to be a serious waste of time.

Why I need to understand that my problem is with Lock when I have untill today no problem with Lock?

Ahh...o.k., the anouncement that Lock is broke/insolvent is the explaination to me that how difficult it would be for me to make my claim "if" Lock is insolvent.
-> Now I understand, thank you! Before this explaination I never ever had an idea that it´ll probably difficult to claim money from an insolvent company, thank you very much again!

Narnia?
It's looking more and more plausible

What is your first language? You're not a native English speaker, are you?

Nearly everyone here thinks that you're just a newly-joined troll, but it recently occurred to me that you might be unable to express your thoughts clearly in English. If that's true, we should give you a bit more leeway.

I'm sick of his out of context posting and garbage talking.

I'll take under 6 months for 1000.00

The money is certainly not made illegally. If your going to play devils advocate with everyone at least be correct.

Don't even respond to that 'surprised' troll, he feeds off it. He should be addressed by Mods for continually doing nothing more than directly attacking every single person he quotes, but whatever that's just me.

@OG_Godfather, I think 6 months is a little short, even if they did end up being a Ponzi or broke. I would indeed take the over on that one.

I can understand that garbage talker getting sick when they are confronted with their garbage.

->
Did I understood you right that although its publicised on lockpoker.eu that I sign a legally binding agreement with Cipaco N.V., in reality I dont sign a contract with Cipaco N.V. and instead of that I sign a contract with JDB Services cause JDB Services is the owner of the domain lockpoker.eu?


-> I should believe you something that you dont know and that you cannot know because you dont know me! Oh man, this must heart in your brain...

Ah...he played legally from the US, o.k.. And what is his problem then? Why not play on another site where withdrawals are quick or go to police/court to claim his money?

Only to show how incompetent you are on what is legal/illegal.

Playing poker online is in no way shape or form illegal in the US. The way the sites need to pay players in the current climate is what is illegal. I'm sure you can figure that one out and why it is so since you have all the answers. So yes the money is his and made 100% legally. Pokerstars funds for US players were paid out on BF bc it belongs to the players, period.

He can not play on another site bc big operators have decided they do not want to break the law by circumventing the system to pay out players money. In turn they have just stopped allowing US players. So while its not illegal to play, it is illegal for the sites to not pay taxes to the us government and everything else they do to pay US players.

I'm sure you can figure this one out.

And who are you Shane's brother?

I´m incompetent about US online poker law.

Ahh...playing online poker for money in the US is legal but paying out the players is illegal?

So vindictive27 made his money legal but he is not allowed by US law to receive it?

Why he is not allowed to receive his money although he played legal? Does this make sense?

Absurdly enough, that's how it works right now, yes. We're talking about the US here, idiotic laws and whatnot aren't exactly anything new. Yes, playing is legal, and receiving the money is legal, just like playing in live casino's is legal there. Why do you think gambling would be illegal for the US?

It's kind of like allowing drug use, but not allowing dealing in it, admittedly, but this is how it is now over there it looks like!

So yes, for the player it is legal to sum it up.

Considering the traffic over the last two days I am guessing they will be done soon. Considerable traffic loss over the last 2 weeks (not that it has been that heavy over last few months). The dbl ups are near 0 and other SNG's are almost to that point as well. <sigh>.

close to 4000 people online right now, which seems pretty standard for the site recently. They definitely are having trouble but if they can get this cashout thing under control they still have time to right the ship.

Alot FR cash tables BB $0,5 to BB $4 running yesterday and today, made $2450.- . The pokerscout.com 7 Day AVG for the last 2 weeks is almost the same.

Been doing dbl's for past year and now can barely get 4 in a night. SNG traffic definitely way down as well. Maybe the sng downswing not enough to have significant impact on overall traffic? .25/.5 tables are about half over last 2 weeks as well? Can't believe only my play levels impacted but maybe i am wrong?

It seems that just about every post of yours is made to argue with someone, and often in a very aggressive manner, even when it's about something you know little about - in this case, US law. I think everyone would appreciate it if you dialed it down several notches.

You can review all my posts, vindictive27 attacked me with this post:
...and since then made a negative propaganda against me....

I asked people about their statements and anouncements and when in this forum asking questions is = attacking someone, yes then I have "attacked" some posters about their anouncements and statements.

This "surprised" character is probably a shill of some sort. Maybe he's a Lock affiliate or something, or perhaps even one of their European pros in disguise.

He seems very dedicated to presenting a pro-Lock point of view, and in fact ignores all obvious evidence which indicates they're in trouble.

I liked the part where he said that I was committing a crime by accusing Lock of being broke without absolute proof.

He has yet to offer any kind of legitimate explanation for any of Lock's recent and not-so-recent failures, and instead just repeats Shane-like talking points over and over, hoping his large quantity of posts saying the same thing will distract everyone.

I'm all for allowing dissenting viewpoints, but it looks like his primary purpose here is to interfere with the signal by providing lots of noise.

In short, if he were to be banned from 2+2, I don't think anyone would miss him, nor do I think we would be missing out on any sort of riveting discussion/debate.

^ this inevitable! Lol

I'm legit laughing out loud. Lol @ "negative propaganda". Are we just throwing random terms out there now? He may not have the best grasp of English, which isn't the issue for anyone at all, but there's no mistaking his tone, manner, and direct sarcastic attempts of belittling of people and their intelligence.

Does he seriously believe that what he quoted was an attack? I thought it was a nice response to someone who was new to the forums who seemed to be getting a bit aggressive towards other 2+2 users.

A shill for what?

Maybe tomorrow it´ll rain...?



Of course, this...
and this...
Is veeery pro-Lock! Bravo, well analysed Kilowatt


In the country I was born and grown up accusing a company of being broke without proof is still criminal, yes.

I have nothing to offer.