surprised:

I didn't see those posts of yours. I admit that I have skipped much of your broken-English drivel because it is nonsensical and difficult to follow. The posts I have read of yours have been either very pro-Lock or are offering "solutions" that are not practical.

If your only solution to this mess is to count on the government of Curacao to take action, then you really have no understanding of the weak regulatory bodies which "govern" sites like Lock.

What do you mean with "weak regulatory bodies which 'govern' sites like Lock"?
Do you wonna say that the police and court dont carry out the in Curacao valid law against Lock?

Erm.. yes, ofcourse, exactly. Why do you think they pick a small island like that to officially operate from (but not in practice)? Here's a hint: tax and legal reasons. The place is filled with corruption aswell, a quick google search will show you plenty. Here's an example short article: http://www.amigoe.com/english/151457...ion-on-curacao

I'm not sure why you keep mentioning attacks - I certainly didn't. But you sure do like to argue.

You got that right.

So many threads to follow now. Is there any news to come out recently?

When is the deadline up for improving cashouts? The deadline Lock set for themselves.

Did the Portugal trip ever get discussed in any significant manner? (i.e. details from Lock)

Did they just decide proof for segregated funds, or an audit, would be too much of a security risk? I have seen their comments, but didn't know if more has been said.

Is fair-play technology staying for good? This really doesn't matter right now, but thought it may have been brought up at some point.

I know I'm forgetting a ton of other stuff, but just wanted to see if Druff or somebody who is super knowledgeable on this topic could give some insight on what has developed (if anything) over the past week and a half or so?

GL to all players getting their money back. I really hope something is resolved in a reasonable time frame. It's disgusting going through some of these threads just trying to find basic information.

If I was new to online poker I wouldn't put money on any site after hearing about Lock. Ultimately they are screwing the entire community in many ways, and that is the biggest disservice any online site can do. In the 3 or so years I have played/followed online poker, I can say I have seen some scummy things that has completely reinforced the idea that money is the root of all evil.

And PS Shane, you scummy shill, you will be seen as one of the main faces of Lock poker. There is no denying your involvement, or any of the other Lock pros that are on board as I write this. You should be publicly ridiculed for your blatant disregard for the players, and karma is a mother****er

@MicroDonky1 - The only timeline I remember reading (other than the vague implications from Shane/Lock Support) was when Matt Stout posted this in the "Conversation with Lock Poker" thread on May 6th:

"...I was given a reasonable explanation of why the delays have increased and I still remain hopeful that the owner will make good on her promise to us that Skrill cash outs will be back to normal (being paid out in 1-2 weeks max) within 3-4 weeks. If this doesn't happen I'll consider it a very bad sign and act according..."

Yesterday (5/27) was the 3-week mark from his comment. I'm not sure why Lock's goal would be to only get their Skrill payouts in order in 3-4 weeks time, but I'll just assume that's the method of payment Stout either uses or asked for a more specific guarantee with, so perhaps that's the only method Stout gained any clarification on.

Waiting since the 9th of may (not complaining about it) but looks like that almost confirms it was once again bs..

In all fairness to Stout's comment, it said in 3-4 weeks time, (which is this week), the improvements would be made to make sure Skrill payouts only took 1-2 weeks. Before it's declared actual bullsh't, another 1-2 weeks time would need to pass to show their Skrill payouts aren't back to the 1-2 week timeframe they guaranteed. Now, I certainly don't believe in it or anything, just saying. Technically they'd have another 2-3 weeks max to get requests paid out that are made now.

Also, if Lock enjoys playing word games, (as we've seen), Matt Stout's statement also says they'd be getting their Skrill payouts back to the 1-2 week payout time. It technically doesn't address any previous pending Skrill payouts. Just providing the technicalities, as I've learned that's quite vital when analyzing anything regarding Lock Poker.

LOL

very good points.

FYP

Because vindictive27 accused me for doing this:

Oh fine, so it´ll be easy to send a russian inkasso to them without any legal consequences if the police in Curacao dont carry out the law!

When does Lock collapse?

I used to think that it could happen at any time, but it wouldn't have been surprising to see them limp along for quite awhile. But now I have the strangest feeling that the collapse is imminent. It just feels like things have gone too far, and that we've now passed the tipping point.

Yes, Lock has once again missed its latest round of commitments, payments continue to be delayed, upset players continue to post, the company continues to stonewall - none of this is new. But something feels different now.

There's a lot of knowledge about the Lock situation out there in the poker community - a greater awareness that even extends to the casual players that would be necessary to keep the scheme alive. With every last piece of credibility shot, Lock must know that it's facing a fight for its own existence. And yet, at this time of crisis, they maintain a policy of deafening silence? It's just very strange, and not at all how one would expect an upstanding business to operate. How do they go forward after this?

I wouldn't be surprised to see things come to a head during the WSOP. This is going to be a big topic of conversation, especially with the recent defection of a few pros.

For all you folks waiting and hoping for money, I wish you the best of luck. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong. But I can't shake the feeling that big news is coming soon.

I guess I left out one of the most important aspects - the event that started the recent crisis. That occurred when Lock temporarily put into effect a policy of keeping any transferred players funds on site (in effect, confiscating player money) - which, after a huge outcry, was followed by a policy reversal, and a new stated policy with play-through requirements.

That situation was so shocking to the community, that it became impossible for the status quo behavior to be acceptable any longer. So Lock entered a kind of "last chance" situation, and when the month or so ran out without the promised changes in behavior, and without communication, it brought us to the current point.

So I suppose it's that crisis, and the lack of credible followup, that makes me feel like things have reached the point where something needs to give. It no longer feels sustainable.

He was referencing this thread which he posted pretty much around the same time as me posting the same CIGA code of conduct in a different thread.

However, I got very tired of him and gave up. Then yesterday he popped up again in the same thread with a new account but only lasted about 5 minutes. LOL - Job well done Mods.

Edit:
Forgot to mention that all his "pressing legal charges against Cipaco...blabla" was to get his $124.50 off of Lock. Just calling my Lawyer would cost me around the same....

Grunch. Lock is going down, and when it does I hope people don't start complaining. Its been long suspected that Larson and Co. will simply disappear one day.

If the past has taught me anything, when it comes to poker sites, where there is smoke there is fire.

GL to all those waiting on cashouts, and anyone making deposits on Lock or not getting the F off the site, is ignorant and dumb.

After what I have gone through with Lock this week I now believe no ones money is safe. Lock can freeze accounts. Provide no explanation, and no response from security. I have a substantial amount of money there and all I get from Lock is crickets.

One day the chat with support will be disabled. All our emails will go unanswered and thats it. Every upper management will disappear. And the pros will have nothing to do with it.
Just a matter of time.