It can have only one official valid name and on the lockpoker.eu homepage it´s written Revolution Gaming Network.

The skin ComeOn Poker know exactly with which company/network they have signed a legally binding agreement. So ComeOn Poker signed a contract with Cake Poker Network.

Ask the skins, they must know who is their contract partner.

The info is from May 2012.

You make some interesting points sunsibar. Perhaps you should deposit some money onto Lock and partake in the games there since you are so deeply skeptical about many of the points others made about the apparent structure of the network, or feel free to present your theories as to what is currently going on with Lock/Revolution.

All the best.

Ahh, when I deposit some money onto Lock and participate in the games they´ll explain me the structure of the network? Dont knew this!

Yup, that is how it works. Deposit then email Shane and he will help you out. Show your support to them with your wallet and copy and paste the deposit confirmation here so we can all admire your stance.

I see you avoided the question to you as to your theory on how the network is structured. No real surprise as I did not expect you to answer, but I am sure Lock Poker quietly appreciate your continued support.

All the best.

Personal theories about how the network is structured are worthless IMO. As I stated before the skins know exactly which company operates/owns the network. What worth should personal theories have compare to facts?

Good luck to you, sir.

Dude, are you ****ing serious? Stop either talking out of your ass, or purposely trying to confuse people, please.

As said before, Cake Network = Revolution Network. What name you wanna give it or why you want to try confuse people with this is beyond me. They're the same thing, and also as said before, yes, maybe (unlikely, but maybe) the name change imposed by Lock got reverted again. There's only one network, though, when you play an MTT on either Cake, Comeon, Lock, whatever, you're all interconnected through the same network, whether you want to call this network Cake or Revolution really nobody cares and it doesn't change a thing.

Why these sites are owed money by Cake network (or Revolution network) is anyone's guess, ofcourse, but come on, it's not like it isn't very reasonable to assume it's because of Lock owing money to the network, especially when you consider this network (Cake or Revolution) has existed for so long before Lock was there and to my knowledge never had multiple sites claiming they owe money from the network, and now some time after Lock joins, the trouble starts, coupled with all other problems, i mean yeah you can't say this with 100% certainty without all the information, but us poker players are used to work with incomplete information, and this looks pretty cut and clear to me really.

This is disgusting. And by this I mean...

1. Pros supporting a site and then selling their cash at 33 cents on the dollar.
2. A "representative" for the site saying "yeah these guys need cash now and are willing to take a 65% loss".

What a joke. I wish I could sell futures on Lock dollars.

No it´s obviously legally not the same:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cake_Network

"The Cake Network is a Curaçao based online poker network.[1] Cake Network is owned and operated by parent company Cake Gaming NV. Cake Gaming NV is hosted by Cyberluck, a Curaçao based Regulating and Gaming Licensing & Hosting provider and operates under the gaming license of Cyberluck Curaçao NV."

In June 2012 Lock Poker purchased the Cake Poker network, renaming it the Revolution Gaming Network.

-> If the Cake Poker network was purchased and renamed in June 2012 it dont exist anymore legally:
- New name
- New owner/operator


http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail...on&ab=12384600

Revolution Gaming Network

Owner/operator: Cipaco N.V.

What a ****ing shocker.

Lock, Cake, ComeOn, AdamEve, and ZetPoker are all listed as skins on the Revolution network website.

http://revolutiongaming.eu/partners/

jfc

Probably because the information is about different time frames, namely one about when the network didn't get renamed to Revolution yet, and then the other being about once the network got bought over + renamed. There definately IS only ONE network, it's not like they're different things. I'm no legal expert, so yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Lock/"Revolution" did something fishy legally when it comes to all that, **** knows, I won't argue with you there, but we all do know there infact is only one network, which got changed/renamed, it's not like there's 2 seperate networks entirely.

http://cakenetwork.net/pressReleases/20120507.aspx It's this very Cake network which gets changed to Revolution network, I really don't understand what the confusion can be. They're the ****ing same thing, Cake network simply no longer exists and is now Revolution network, or ofcourse, possibly was (we don't know with 100% certainty now anymore ofcourse, after Lock said they don't own it, but there's been no new press release or anything afaik to show who then the new owner is (probably the old Cake one would fairly assume, but whether that also means Revolution's name gets changed back to Cake is anyone's guess ofcourse)

Suck my d

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So ComeOn Poker is on the Revolution Gaming Network and announce that the Cake Poker Network owe them money. This makes sense, yeah.

Well, yeah, we've close to determined then that in that case indeed Revolution now name-changed once again back to Cake. That's how I see it in any case, but **** knows. Or ofcourse, the money owed dates back to from when it was still Cake, but it seems to make little sense because then why would that suddenly surface now..

In any case, my point remains, at any given moment, there's only one network (from the player's eyes at least), either Cake network or Revolution network.

Sunsibar, nothing that you read on pokerscout, or lockpoker.eu, or ComeOn's website is a legally binding statement.

The SEC is not regulating the disclosure of this information.

Lock still had Merge promos and Merge regulatory logos on their website 6 months after they left, ffs.

It could be that the network has legally changed back to 'Cake Network', but Lock hasn't updated their pages. Or maybe the network was never legally changed from Cake Network, who the **** knows?

It's definitely just one network, though.

Heh, this guy actually thinks there are two networks, perhaps one in an alternate universe? I would hope he is just being a weird troll, but seems he is a genuinely confused human.

No wonder he will not answer what he thinks the structure is because he would somehow have to explain how the Cake network and Revolution are different with different rooms.

Humans can be entertaining at times, especially when they are mostly harmless like that fellow, but the sad truth is Lock Poker is doing a ton of harm as they die, regardless of what network(s) they are on in that special person's head.

So the Terms & Conditions(legally binding agreement) stated on lockpoker.eu are not legally binding, you say?

Who is SEC?

Lol, no.

Lock is not a publicly traded company that is regulated and has to offer complete transparency to the public and to their shareholders.

Lock is just a couple of crackheads sharing a laptop in somebody's apartment, running this criminal effort the best they can.


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Your BS is always welcome! I never ever said that Cake Poker network and Revolution Gaming network are 2 separately running networks. I said that Cake Poker network is not Revolution Gaming network. And I said that Cake Poker network legally dont exist anymore if it was purchased and renamed in June 2012!

You assume it was ever changed in the first place. Which is very likely untrue. Lock never paid for the network from what I understand, and thus, doesn't own anything other than a black hole of a balance sheet.

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That's certainly possible, but Lock would have had all the player funds from Merge, I would assume they probably used that to make a down-payment.

That's seems more likely to me than Cake just handing over the network and letting them rebrand it without putting any money up, but obviously this is just speculation.

This actually looks like the most likely scenario to me aswell. Cake was never bought by Lock. Cake never got changed to "Revolution" either, all that happened is Lock putting some articles and whatnot on the internet stating they bought the network and now "Revolution" has come to life without any contracts being finished.

ComeOn rightfully points at "Cake" because as just said, that was, is and has always been the name of the network. Yeah it probably really isn't more complicated than this, and then Lock can own "Revolution" as much as they want, it indeed doesn't even exist in the real world, or it's nothing that has ever been materialised at least.

You guys should be ashaned of yourselves. What you are doing is shaneful.

That would be a pretty sick scam by Lock.

Get Cake to agree to pretend that a new network had been formed, when really they were just another skin getting on board. Create phony press releases, create hype, make a bunch of empty promises, etc.

Certainly possible.

It doesn't have to be a sick scam really. It could just be.. actual negotiations going on, which may or may not have been close to finalised, to then not getting finalised after all. Besides, a name-change to Revolution is something Cake may or may not have agreed to in any case, it's not like this is something negative by definition whether Lock does or doesn't buy the network.. A name-change can create hype and bring new players in aswell as give a better public image overall.

The only "bad" thing would be for Cake is that they still have the big skin equally named Cake, so if the network's name would be changed, this could possibly coincide with the skin Cake losing customers to Lock in the long term because people think Lock is the new main skin because of all said hype.

Then again.. this is all anyone's guess imo, i mean, if this were true I think we'd have seen more messages coming out from Cake trying to rectify Lock's "wrong" advertisement.. nothing as such has been seen afaik, so hmm it does make me wonder.