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12-07-2012 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by grenzen
Pogue, I wish this thread was not about Lock specifically. All my opinions are about any online poker site operating in the US today.

I just dont think its likely to get paid back if a site is shutdown. Without any way to generate revenues for salaries, and payment processors not wanting to get involved with an investigation, I don't see how the transactions are going to happen.

Anyway i applaud your optimism sir.
I suppose my post wasn't clear, I apologize.

I meant that Lock clearly doesn't like money, hence their horrid management decisions. Locks runs it's business very similar to tilt, vague cut-n-paste emails from support and 2 new promotions this month, yay!

I don't think I'll see a dime from them if anything happens.

On the other hand, the management at stars love money, know how to run a business and treat it's customers and they are still profiting.

The signs are there right now, it's up to us to decide whether to continue to give lock our business.
12-07-2012 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 3BetLight
Yeah but they might dodge / deflect the question. Also, you'd hope that these sites have learned from the previous fiasco to keep the money in a segregated account. As in, whatever we do, this is the 1 thing we must do, towards it sort of attitude.
It's not that previous sites were just unaware that segregated funds were safer. It's that they wanted to use player funds to keep the business going rather than having to contract when hit with cash shortfalls from risky behavior.

I also don't know why a site would ever dodge or deflect a question about segregation. You either do it or you don't, and if you don't, you're very likely to say that you do.
12-07-2012 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 3BetLight
I had never heard them say they kept segregated funds before nor really even ever heard that question asked of poker sites before black Friday.
Pokerstars did.

Pokerstars used to have a pop up when you logged in saying they signed a deal with the bank of scotland and "now have segregated funds."

Full tilt never claimed to have segregated funds. But after black friday they did say, "your funds are safe and secure."
12-07-2012 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RikaKazak
Pokerstars did.

Pokerstars used to have a pop up when you logged in saying they signed a deal with the bank of scotland and "now have segregated funds."

Full tilt never claimed to have segregated funds. But after black friday they did say, "your funds are safe and secure."
99% sure ftpdoug said funds were segregated pre black Friday.
12-07-2012 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ditch Digger
99% sure ftpdoug said funds were segregated pre black Friday.
I'm 99% sure he did too.

I mean "they" did, as we now know several people used that account to answer questions.
12-07-2012 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
It's not that previous sites were just unaware that segregated funds were safer. It's that they wanted to use player funds to keep the business going rather than having to contract when hit with cash shortfalls from risky behavior.

I also don't know why a site would ever dodge or deflect a question about segregation. You either do it or you don't, and if you don't, you're very likely to say that you do.
Look up the replies Shane was giving about Lock 2 years ago. Something to the extent of "I'm instructed not to discuss Locks banking."
12-07-2012 , 09:52 PM
heres the question, I have no idea what gaming license this site is under, but its up to them to make sure that money is segregated. Full Tilt claimed they were and even though there were huge problems, the people who granted them the license never looked into which help cause the huge melt down at full tilt. Anyone knows who holds the gaming license for Lock?
12-07-2012 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by suppersready
heres the question, I have no idea what gaming license this site is under, but its up to them to make sure that money is segregated. Full Tilt claimed they were and even though there were huge problems, the people who granted them the license never looked into which help cause the huge melt down at full tilt. Anyone knows who holds the gaming license for Lock?
This is Locks gaming license, and I completely agree, and hopefully the license providers will now be keeping closer to that. That said, this is the government of Curacao we are talking about:

http://validate.cyberluck.com/valida...b-619f0a00002a
12-07-2012 , 10:45 PM
why si everyone freaking out...circumstances havent changed in the last 6 months
12-08-2012 , 12:23 AM
I'm freaking out because I went on a heater and won like $10k in the past couple weeks and can't cash out. Most people are freaking out because WU is down and hasn't come back and there are cash out requests from October that haven't been fulfilled.
12-08-2012 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 3BetLight
I'm freaking out because I went on a heater and won like $10k in the past couple weeks and can't cash out. Most people are freaking out because WU is down and hasn't come back and there are cash out requests from beginning of September that haven't been fulfilled.
fyp
12-08-2012 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 3BetLight
I'm freaking out because I went on a heater and won like $10k in the past couple weeks and can't cash out. Most people are freaking out because WU is down and hasn't come back and there are cash out requests from October that haven't been fulfilled.
10k good win whats your SN. be happy Lock let you go on a heater
12-08-2012 , 08:30 PM
Ive posted several times on this, our funds are absolutely segregated.

Player balances are at all times completely separated from operational funds.

We dont consider this to be something exceptional, it should be standard operating procedure for our industry.
12-08-2012 , 08:47 PM
why do people ask this meaningless, albeit important, question? he will give the reassuring answer 100% of the time, regardless of whether it's truth or a lie. you can ask the question, but you learn nothing new.
12-10-2012 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Ive posted several times on this, our funds are absolutely segregated.

Player balances are at all times completely separated from operational funds.

We dont consider this to be something exceptional, it should be standard operating procedure for our industry.
Yes, I saw that they posted you had responded to this before. Thank you.
12-10-2012 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Ive posted several times on this, our funds are absolutely segregated.

Player balances are at all times completely separated from operational funds.

We dont consider this to be something exceptional, it should be standard operating procedure for our industry.
It definately should be, i also don't really understand how it ever could not be, given the enormous profits from rake alone.

      
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