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Old 06-25-2012, 06:53 AM   #16
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

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Really good news for rakeback players. They are almost certainly getting a better deal than VIP players now due to the bad points structure. But I'm not even positive how the rakeback is calculated on new Lock. I assume it is related to the "rake generated" in the admin which I think is weighted-contributed. Which is not really supposed to be preferred. Except when the points are a giant mess.

Glad some of this stuff is getting tackled Shane. Seems you're trying to slog through it one by one. Hopefully the terrible points system is next on the agenda.
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If RB players are not excluded from any promos or bonuses, then no there is zero benefit to the VIP system unless you can get to BlackElite.

Maybe they need to bump the VIP system up a bit to encourage more volume from people who can't get to Elite, or they will just switch to RB now that this news is out.
I'm sorry to keep bothering you guys but can someone explain it to me because I'm really confused right now. Why isn't better to go with VIP if you can achieve Black VIP level not Black Elite ?
Doesn't the 35% Cashback work the same way as 36% Rakeback and is applied to your daily/monthly Gaming Rev that shows up in your Stats page of the Admin ? Plus you get the whole 7 VIP points/$ raked. Right now on rakeback when I play an $10+$1 tournament I only get 4 VIP points for my $1 rake as my 36% rakeback gets deducted. On VIP I assume I will get 7 VIP points for the same tournament.
I'm probably misunderstanding the way Cashback works so please can someone explain this to me ?
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:47 PM   #17
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

Awesome. Worked for me.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:49 PM   #18
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

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I'm sorry to keep bothering you guys but can someone explain it to me because I'm really confused right now. Why isn't better to go with VIP if you can achieve Black VIP level not Black Elite ?
Doesn't the 35% Cashback work the same way as 36% Rakeback and is applied to your daily/monthly Gaming Rev that shows up in your Stats page of the Admin ? Plus you get the whole 7 VIP points/$ raked. Right now on rakeback when I play an $10+$1 tournament I only get 4 VIP points for my $1 rake as my 36% rakeback gets deducted. On VIP I assume I will get 7 VIP points for the same tournament.
I'm probably misunderstanding the way Cashback works so please can someone explain this to me ?
I didn't realize that RB players weren't receiving the same amount of points as VIP players.

So yes, BlackVIP would also be slightly better than RB in that case.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:19 PM   #19
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Black VIP is for sure better than rakeback. You get 36% less value on points and you get 50% less on ronin.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:08 AM   #20
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

If I am VIP right now can I change it Rack Back starting next month if I wanted? If so how do I do that? I would say email support but ive sent out about 5 emails the last month and NONE were answered. But really I just want to know if I can switch to RB from VIP.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:04 AM   #21
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Should be no problem i guess. I switched from VIP to RB and will change back to VIP once i reached 1,5k in rake. My affiliate (LockPro) told me this should work.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:13 PM   #22
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

For the guys that want to switch between RB and VIP I can also take care of that for you.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:36 PM   #23
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For the guys that want to switch between RB and VIP I can also take care of that for you.
I would like to be switched to RB. If I'm switched now how will it effect my Ronin and bonus's?
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:54 PM   #24
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I would like to be switched to RB. If I'm switched now how will it effect my Ronin and bonus's?
You earn them slower. If you still want to be switched just send me your email address and I will take care of it for you.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:00 PM   #25
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

With the changes to ronin/bonus payouts (now based on rake, not points), how does this work for RB players? Is it total rake after RB? Total rake? Half rake before RB (RB players got half points before)?

Any idea when all the changes will stabilize?
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:08 PM   #26
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bottom line ......if you put in enough volume to be black VIP just absolutely murderizes RB ESPECIALLY while ronin is running
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:25 PM   #27
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

I changed to RB last month coz I didnt think that I can achieve Black VIP. But it looks like this won't be a problem. If I change back to VIP, will I have to start as White or will I be Silver or Black depending on rake paid so far this month?

It should be even worth it to change to VIP as Silver whilst Ronin is running, right?

Thx in advance for help.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:04 PM   #28
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

Quick Question.

New to Lock and just deposited... I plan on being Black VIP/Black VIP elite at the end of July, but won't make it there til the end.

I'm assuming your cash back is calculated based on last months standing? So it would be smart to start out on RB and then switch to VIP after a month when you have earned Black or higher?

Or do you start at white when you switch to VIP?

Thanks.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:02 PM   #29
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

Would like to know if when you switch from RB to VIP do you start from scratch. So say I rake $750 this month can I be switched to silver VIP mid month? Would it reset Ronin? After looking it closer I think Silver VIP is better than rakeback while robin is running.
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Old 07-07-2012, 06:47 AM   #30
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Re: VIP points for cash - Rakeback players now eligible

Push. The questions above have been asked in multiple threads various times but have never been answered...
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