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05-28-2013 , 10:15 PM
I found this interesting:

In the micros (NL50 and below), there is as much traffic on Lock tonight as I have ever seen on Lock, perhaps even a wee bit more - I remember it being very difficult to 8-table 4NL FR for example, but there were about 11 FR tables going tonight.

In fact, all the way up to 200NL there were anywhere from 5 to 10 full tables going.

But above 200NL it was a ghost town.

To be honest I never really checked the traffic above 200NL, but you gotta think that the people being the most hurt by all this are the high-stakes players. How was the traffic at limits above 200NL 6 to 9 months ago?

I personally stopped playing on Lock and moved to Carbon, hoping that a few thousand other people would do the same to help Lock get the message, but it looks like the micros players on Lock are either aware that they're not good enough to make significant amounts of money anyway, or they're blissfully unaware that they're never going to see it.

Who knows?
05-28-2013 , 10:38 PM
http://www.pokeraffiliatesolutions.c...ml#comment1144

According to this report, cash out speeds on carbon and other merge skins are comparably bad to Locks cash-out speeds. People DO get paid (me included) at lock, it just takes a really long time.
05-29-2013 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ShadowPoker
http://www.pokeraffiliatesolutions.c...ml#comment1144

According to this report, cash out speeds on carbon and other merge skins are comparably bad to Locks cash-out speeds. People DO get paid (me included) at lock, it just takes a really long time.
People do get paid? When the people getting paid on here represent like 5% in total and the unpaid remain at 95%, you're really stretching it by saying "people do get paid". It would read better as "a few have selectively been paid out here n there".

I'm going on waiting 5 months now. There are plenty waiting the same as me and even longer. Are we still considering that "a really long time"? I consider that to be 'NOT being paid' until proven otherwise.
05-29-2013 , 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vindictive27
People do get paid? When the people getting paid on here represent like 5% in total and the unpaid remain at 95%, you're really stretching it by saying "people do get paid". It would read better as "a few have selectively been paid out here n there".

I'm going on waiting 5 months now. There are plenty waiting the same as me and even longer. Are we still considering that "a really long time"? I consider that to be 'NOT being paid' until proven otherwise.
Your scenario is obviously very unique. But my most recent WU request took from 4/9 to 4/27 to be completed, the one before that took exactly 30 days. There are people who posted just a few days ago that they received their cash out, it doesn't matter how long it takes if I was addressing OP'S statement, which basically implied that Lock pays out 0% of requests, which is a complete fabrication.

Also, what percentage of Lock's player base do you believe posts on 2+2? I would say 20-30% would be a generous guess considering it took me nearly half a year to find these forums, and I have generated nearly 30k rake on this site lifetime. If that percentage were even close, then how could you possibly say that only 5% have been paid? Its almost arrogant to make such a statement given the small sample you have to work with.

lol you're probably the wrong person for me to address this to( I know how f%#ked up your situation is). But its ultra annoying when people make incredibly broad and swiping generalizations based almost sole on their current condition.
05-29-2013 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vindictive27

I'm going on waiting 5 months now.
5 Months? I don't play about my paper man, I want mines. Viva Mexico!
05-29-2013 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadowPoker
Your scenario is obviously very unique. But my most recent WU request took from 4/9 to 4/27 to be completed, the one before that took exactly 30 days. There are people who posted just a few days ago that they received their cash out, it doesn't matter how long it takes if I was addressing OP'S statement, which basically implied that Lock pays out 0% of requests, which is a complete fabrication.

Also, what percentage of Lock's player base do you believe posts on 2+2? I would say 20-30% would be a generous guess considering it took me nearly half a year to find these forums, and I have generated nearly 30k rake on this site lifetime. If that percentage were even close, then how could you possibly say that only 5% have been paid? Its almost arrogant to make such a statement given the small sample you have to work with.

lol you're probably the wrong person for me to address this to( I know how f%#ked up your situation is). But its ultra annoying when people make incredibly broad and swiping generalizations based almost sole on their current condition.
His situation is not unique. That is an inaccurate use of the word.

I don't think we can tell whose situation is more unique between you and him, with you getting paid and him not getting paid. If the three of us were in a room, you would be in the minority.
05-29-2013 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by derSchwartz
His situation is not unique. That is an inaccurate use of the word.

I don't think we can tell whose situation is more unique between you and him, with you getting paid and him not getting paid. If the three of us were in a room, you would be in the minority.
I'm familiar with what happened to him. He had been waiting several months for a WU, then was told that he was blacklisted(although he had never used WU before), and wouldn't be able to received a withdrawal that way. Lock told him that they would expedite a check to make up for that, and I'm guessing he still hasn't received that check. Its been 4-5 months since he requested that WU yet he still has no money.... he is obviously pissed(rightfully so).

I think that would qualify as unique.... you?
05-29-2013 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadowPoker
I'm familiar with what happened to him. He had been waiting several months for a WU, then was told that he was blacklisted(although he had never used WU before), and wouldn't be able to received a withdrawal that way. Lock told him that they would expedite a check to make up for that, and I'm guessing he still hasn't received that check. Its been 4-5 months since he requested that WU yet he still has no money.... he is obviously pissed(rightfully so).

I think that would qualify as unique.... you?
Fair enough, if that's what you're talking about. Yeah I remember him talking about the WU situation. But I will explain that since you used the phrase in response to his post that did not mention that situation at all, it was confusing and sounded like you were responding to the cashout wait time.

In general I will say that some of your posts have a sense of optimism that will rub people the wrong way if they are waiting for cashouts for a long time (ie. 4-6+ months) That is some of what I was reacting to.
05-29-2013 , 12:55 PM
By the way, Shadow, sorry if I sound like a dick. I appreciate your honesty if you are posting how you truly see the situation.
05-29-2013 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadowPoker
Also, what percentage of Lock's player base do you believe posts on 2+2? I would say 20-30% would be a generous guess considering it took me nearly half a year to find these forums, and I have generated nearly 30k rake on this site lifetime. If that percentage were even close, then how could you possibly say that only 5% have been paid? Its almost arrogant to make such a statement given the small sample you have to work with.

lol you're probably the wrong person for me to address this to( I know how f%#ked up your situation is). But its ultra annoying when people make incredibly broad and swiping generalizations based almost sole on their current condition.
It's probably just a coincidence that so many of the people waiting on Lock cashouts happen to post on 2+2, and the going rate for Lock funds is $.35/$1
05-29-2013 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vindictive27
People do get paid? When the people getting paid on here represent like 5% in total and the unpaid remain at 95%, you're really stretching it by saying "people do get paid". It would read better as "a few have selectively been paid out here n there".

I'm going on waiting 5 months now. There are plenty waiting the same as me and even longer. Are we still considering that "a really long time"? I consider that to be 'NOT being paid' until proven otherwise.
http://www.pokeraffiliatesolutions.c...ml#comment1144

Lock Poker

"Unfortunately, cash transfers are being processed in 8-12 weeks. Checks are reportedly in the 5-6 month range."

Juicy Stakes

"One player reported waiting seven months for a check, only to have it bounce. Others are also reporting 6-7 month check cashouts. This is dangerously close to nonpayment."
05-29-2013 , 01:44 PM
@Shadow: I should have worded it better. I meant that when 5% of the people on here are being paid, and 95% of the people on here AREN'T being paid, it's a huge issue. When you run a business, you should (if anything) care MORESO about the people who are a part of online social-networking communities, because they are the ones who will spread the word. Are you going to imply that people who aren't using 2+2 are being paid at a higher % rate?

Oh and btw guys, I've been receiving e-mails from Lock Support telling me that my MTCN is on its way. That's right, they're either completely not looking into my situation any longer and just giving me bullcrap, or they're actually re-putting me back into WU. I don't understand it at all, but I'm not even receiving consistent lies anymore, it's just complete inconsistency in all regards. I've received the e-mail from multiple Support members and their cashier department, and they haven't mentioned the word "check" in a while.

I have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on, but wouldn't it make sense to pay someone as vocal as myself? I have absolutely nothing positive to say about Lock poker, and they should be well aware of that. Shane should be well aware of that. Shane should be like, "yo guys seriously, let's just get this guy his WU $ so he shuts the f'k up on 2+2 and facebook". And Shane if you read this, stop removing everyone's comments from your Facebook page. People just want their money, BRO.

Most likely scenario: The processors with which my WU withdrawal was through (As well as CharlieKelly, as we had the same request date), may have stolen the money. So while CharlieKelly just remains without an update, they decided to stall me in a different way.

Solution: Stop profiting money as a company until you pay out these old requests. I'm tired of Chloe from Lock Support telling me "we have never missed a payment". Like b'tch you have too. You've missed paying a lot of people. You can't sit around using that line so long as you're in business.
05-31-2013 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by derSchwartz
His situation is not unique. That is an inaccurate use of the word.

I don't think we can tell whose situation is more unique between you and him, with you getting paid and him not getting paid. If the three of us were in a room, you would be in the minority.
... and if I would join it would be 50/50 again.

However If I had to wait 5+ months on a cashout (or a lock withdrawl) I'd be very much pissed off too. What amazes me is the fact that there is some serious mid to high stake players on this forum who have been waiting for their money for months and yes, resolving their situation should be Lock's first priority.

Anyway back to the actual topic of traffic.

I see anything between 1-2 FR or 6-max tables between NL10 and NL50 and usually empty promotion tables. Dunno if it is fair-play tech but I don't think so cause I been pretty bad playing cash the last month which should put me in a low tier... it's the whole fair-play tech stuff that makes you worry to much imho.

"Am I in the fish tier or am I playing against sharks? How many tables should I see? How many tables are there? etc pp"

I'm givng cash on Lock a rest for now and play more MTT's again and SnG's. Great tournaments with small fields in the afternoon and evening EU time so why worry about fair-play tech and donk plays.
05-31-2013 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by otatop
It's probably just a coincidence that so many of the people waiting on Lock cashouts happen to post on 2+2, and the going rate for Lock funds is $.35/$1
Actually, the rate is closer to .39...

      
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