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04-17-2013 , 10:22 PM

lotuselise88

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 267

http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-St...yers/holykings

I was looking up people at my table and realized this guy has just started playing 8 days ago on April 9th 2013 and is up over 3k. He has won every high stakes game he plays($100 up to $1000) but then plays 1 dollar games and loses more often than not. Something just felt a little sketchy and I figured it wouldn't hurt to have it looked into.

Thanks.

04-17-2013 , 10:34 PM

WVUskinsfan

no felonies

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,055

obv should stick to high stakes

04-17-2013 , 10:36 PM

Mccormick

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,982

Possibly trying to keep himself in Mid Fair Play tier by losing some low-stakes games? Not sure if it works, he may not be sure either, but wouldn't surprise me if it's something a lot of players are trying to do.

04-17-2013 , 10:58 PM

LiarsDice

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,518

^^ FP doesn't effect SNG's but love that theory re: cash games. Definitely could see people doing that.

Given that $2,615 (after rake) of holykings $3,503 in profits is from holypoker72 it seems more than likely he was chip dumping to himself and his attempts are in the [ x ] failboat category for not being smart about it.

04-17-2013 , 11:44 PM

burnJa

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,630

LOL wow good looking out. ya id say its more likely that holypoker72 is the same guy

04-18-2013 , 01:40 AM

LiarsDice

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,518

Well, assuming he was never going to use either account again, and factoring in vig % on Lock right now, he had a coinflip in equity going into this to break even. Anything higher than that = chip dump ftw. We obviously need to discount some of our equity for the fact that not every 2p2 trade would likewise pan out.

I'm sure many have done this and it's a big reason why Lock is supposedly on the negative side of the reconciliation reports w/ payments to other skins on the network.

04-18-2013 , 07:35 AM

imjustshane

Lock Poker Representative

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,661

Thanks for posting this, Ive sent it over to our security guys so they can take a look.

04-19-2013 , 11:24 AM

Doorbread

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,750

just a guy trying to get his money off lock. nothing to see here.

04-19-2013 , 11:42 AM

MDoranD

MDaddyD

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,288

The guy clearly moves up where people respect his raises

04-19-2013 , 01:04 PM

#10

syracuseball

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12

Any update on this? Holykings is sitting at 10NL table right now

04-19-2013 , 01:15 PM

#11

AlwaysTilting

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 77

This is normal, people lose a few sng, goes on tilt, stick his roll on a high stakes game and win... or maybe he found out hes not getting paid anything soon and be like **** it- get rich or go broke.

04-19-2013 , 08:16 PM

#12

SNGplayer24

banned

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,582

clearly cheating - hes back to 5 dollar games to keep his profile down - soon he will strike again for his huge 2k payday! watch out for the cheaters!

04-19-2013 , 09:34 PM

#13

derSchwartz

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 235

Noobie question:

What is a chip dump? I'm picturing a player giving money to another by going to a poker table and folding a hundred thousand dollars over to him. If that's what it is, why is it a problem?

04-20-2013 , 12:06 PM

#14

DonSwanLeon

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 388

I took this from Jah Onion on 2+2, gotta give credit where credit is due...

Let me Google that for you

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+chip+dump

hahaha

04-21-2013 , 07:29 PM

#15

LiarsDice

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,518

What I see today in the SNG lobby, new chip dumping duo.... could they seriously be more obvious? They've already dumped another 5 or so games since I posted this too lol.

04-21-2013 , 07:35 PM

#16

LiarsDice

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,518

ROFL, you'd think if they're going to be obvious about it, don't waste your time and just dump all but 1 chip of your stack preflop and have one person shove and you fold.

04-21-2013 , 07:35 PM

#17

LiarsDice

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,518

Quote:

Originally Posted by derSchwartz

My two posts should help you understand what a chip dump is now.

04-21-2013 , 07:49 PM

#18

DonSwanLeon

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 388

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiarsDice

ROFL, you'd think if they're going to be obvious about it, don't waste your time and just dump all but 1 chip of your stack preflop and have one person shove and you fold.

you gottem... now what happens?

04-21-2013 , 08:42 PM

#19

ty71087

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9,308

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonSwanLeon

you gottem... now what happens?

lol

04-22-2013 , 01:45 AM

#20

Doorbread

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,750

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonSwanLeon

you gottem... now what happens?

lock is so bad that this is a legitimate question

04-22-2013 , 04:00 AM

#21

cheeseisgood

grinder

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 472

Quote:

Originally Posted by derSchwartz

nothing is really wrong with the act itself. its more the reason why ppl would need to do it. like if you are underage or have many accounts or the money you used is from a stolen credit card so you have to dump the money to legitimate accounts to get it off the site.

also in locks case they probably dont want money going to other sites on the network that have fast cashout times.

04-22-2013 , 07:09 AM

#22

NextPlz

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 370

Its pretty common to loose 10 out of 15 sitngos its called variance

04-22-2013 , 07:10 AM

#23

NextPlz

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 370

lol didnt see the hands, haha pretty sick Q5 call

04-22-2013 , 07:14 AM

#24

HammerMan72

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 940

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doorbread

lock is so bad that this is a legitimate question

Whatever happens now won't get posted here since it's general practice for poker sites not to share actions taken by the security team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NextPlz

Its pretty common to loose 10 out of 15 sitngos its called variance

Losing 10 out of 15 would be a pretty bad ROI lol.

04-23-2013 , 01:12 PM

#25

NextPlz

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 370

I have ran myself last 20 350-500 sitngos i have lost 16 of them, really bad run at the moment.

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