Interesting, ya it must be wrong then for the past couple days. I thought it was insane how I'd instantly go down 2k+ everyday for the past couple days like never did I have a single day where I even went up like 500 over EV.

LOL. That's why I wasn't gonna waste my time emailing support.

Yep, THEY have to go through all history and check for each and every Coin Flip both who the winner was, and then if this winner also got credited properly. There's no other way, it's going to be a hell lot of work, but yes that's the only way.

Anyone wanna massively sign for 5$-10$-20$ flips to test this? Since i CAN test it for future ones, because eventhough the winner isn't displayed, i can still check the winner afterwards by checking the game lobby.

I'll do it with you tomorrow maybe if you still need someone.

Scray situation... What do sharkscope and HEM or PT show?

If i sharkscope OhNevermind he's only down -4.5k pre rakeback, at ~20k rake paid so it looks like it's possible he has the most insane upswing ever for about +15k, which would explain our -7k each. And then the software bugs are well, just that.. software bugs

So you guys are basically the three or four highest rakers on Lock Poker... You guys have been doing these coinflip tournaments agagainst each other for 4,000-9,000 games or whatever, and you have no idea who has been finishing in first or second? and sometimes you can't even see your cards?

And now it turns out none of you guys seem to be winning?

I'm so confused? What!? My mind is scrambled.

EDIT: "winning" to mean as in all of you are down more than you should be?

No, it's basically since the patch the tournaments have been bugging out and u can't see cards often nor who has won etc. We have no idea because really oftentimes you just keep signing for them without even looking at em because as you say, we've done thousands of em.. it gets boring watching them play out, there's no real point either, besides, you'd have to remember and keep checking whether u got credited for which tournament etc. if you thought you weren't being credited properly, which we only noticed since the patch.

Also, none of us should be winning: we're paying rake for coin flips, we're expecting to take a small loss (in both time and money) to then win more back after winning the promotion prize.

Mccormick,
why don't you hit a few HU tables with MakeItRain and do a couple of flips. You should see right away if things work for you guys or not.

I already proposed this. Truth is though, last couple of flips i've done all worked out fine. Either they fixed (part of) the issue OR it only occurs when loads start up simultaneously. This, i cannot reproduce right now because traffic is too low at this hour.

Wow, if he really is 15k above EV then this all makes sense I guess. That's so insane though to be up 15k flipping over 5,000 times.

It isn't too unbelievable. After I finished flipping I did the math and it turned out I had wagered $160k in a week, and I was only doing the $20 and below. Mccormick has likely wagered millions lol

It's simply every single day now -loads for me.. -589.50 on only 103.50 rake paid.. pretty much has got to be because of not being credited for some constantly.

Oh, I thought we were being credited properly. I was just about to do some but if you're still not sure I'm gonna stay away. Lmk if you think it's all fixed.

-1,699.00 on 537.50 rake paid today.. but **** knows, i ran bad again from looking at the ones i COULD see, so i don't know. I also didn't really have any more sessions of people massively signing up like in the days before.. it may only be skipping on creditting some if you "overload" the system by having 10+ flips starting at once etc.

If OhNevermind could confirm 15k upswing (and been credited properly for all of it) then this is pretty much solved, but he doesn't speak in chat, probably chat disabled and i don't know his 2+2 username

Did you play any today where you couldn't see your cards? Or did the client freeze at all?

Sure, had multiple client crashes aswell as holecards / winner not being shown at all. I did run some tests with Sunsibar however keeping track of Tournament IDs and it seemed that even if these bugs occured, everything got recorded properly in the Reports section of the Admin page.

I'd need 100% confirmation it's always so and also need confirmation that just because it says in the Reports page that you won 196$ for example on a 100$ flip, you also -actually- got credited this in your account Balance. (i'm not even entirely convinced about that either)

Also, i have a suspicion it bugs out more if you're signing loads at once rather than if just a few start up.

Does anyone know OhNevermind's 2+2 or Skype or anything? Or can anyone ask him if he can confirm the upswing? Obviously only reason we're asking is to sort out any confusion about this situation being software/bug related (well, we know there's software bugs, but we're not 100% sure if it's also causing us financial loss, that may still just be coincidence of bugs together with downswing for both of us) it's just that everything added together it all seems very suspicious/unlikely to be just a downswing.

To sum up: If it's a downswing, it's the biggest one i've had ever (9k in like maybe 2 weeks). This downswing is double the biggest outlyers of 3-4k i've had before doing coin flips for months now (haven't seen bigger up or downswings than like 4k in a relatively short time such as 2 weeks). This would then coincide to happen exactly as the patch and consequent bugs happen, and this for 2 people, not to mention that these 2 people played a significant amount of these flips exactly against eachother which then both being down loads obviously makes 0 sense. And then there's the fact these non-crediting bugs are not new to Lock (even after Shane confirmed it was fixed, it later popped up again to then again be confirmed "fixed"). Reason enough to be suspicious/skeptical, i'd say.

LOL are you complaining about being 3k under EV?? I was 12k under EV last month when I was grinding them huge ... probably about 10k of that to you, I had a total of 3 profitable days in coin flips out of 28

9k under EV also only reason i'm complaining is because of all aforementioned reasons rather than just the simple downswing.. i didn't even make this thread, so wtf are you babbling about?

I quote: All i'm asking for is 100% confirmation it's infact a downswing and not not being credited on wins consistently aswell. Given the fact we can often barely track this because the hands/ winners aren't even being displayed (hell, it was a tedious task even with them being displayed due to cheer number of flips.. if u had to backtrack all of these..)

I think OhNevermind is Jermz on 2+2. Remember he used to post a good amount in the transfer thread. GL with all of this

Also, ROFL at this comment considering u were crying about it way way, wayyyyy before you hit that 12k, probably indeed around 4k already the crying did start.

I didn't create this thread to complain about being under EV, obviously I made it to make sure we were properly being credited for each SNG. Obviously it's possible that we are just running bad but it seemed somewhat unlikely to me especially considering that I seemed to be losing much more when the client was crashing and I couldn't even see my cards. I just thought it should be brought to attention. Please let's not turn this into a war about who is running bad or not let's just make sure we're fairly being credited for each one we play.

Sometimes, the cards aren't being shown and neither is the winner ON THE TABLE, but then afterwards you CAN check in the Lobby who won/lost by clicking the "Players" section where you can now see the payouts, just like in every Sit&Go or tournament.

However, sometimes it bugs so hard that even that isn't possible anymore. Added screenshot! Didn't get credited for either of them, so just like the others where this happens i each time have to assume they happen to both bug out like this AND i lost both of these coincidentially.



.. and another day with loads of -EV.. Is it so hard for OhNevermind to post aswell? Come on..

And then there's these mother****s all over too..



and then the client closes.