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Old 12-14-2012, 01:26 PM   #1
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Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

Enough is enough.

Cashout times have not improved and the state of affairs have been the same since before Lock moved skins and was apart of merge.

I have made 3-4 cashouts from Lock Poker via Skrill moneybookers.
The policy of the site, was that these cashouts will take 10-15 business days.
This is still the company line.

However, not a single person in this entire forum has had a withdrawal processed in that time.

How is it then that you continue to use the same processing time when it hasn't at any point been this number of days.

Basically you are now lying to us about how long these cashouts take to process because it would probably cost you to much business to switch your policy to match what the reality of your cashout situation is, 3-4 weeks, and really closer to a full month (the 4 weeks).

I've been playing online poker for over 6 years, I've made hundreds of cashouts and no site has ever had such consistent problems processing cashouts, and this is not for American players.

Any respectable business could not continue to blatently lie to its customers about a processing time when you simply never ever meet that time.

Change your policy to 21-28 business days, stop lying to us and giving us hope that we may see our withdrawal in less time.

Your post in the other thread about improvements was basically a lie, as ppl continue to wait over the alotted period of time to receive money.

A lot of ppl in that other thread have shown a true disappointment in how you go about answering our questions with regards to this.

I really dont even care if you want to answer me, pls change your policy to fit the reality of the situation because it is complete bull**** that you process any skrill withdrawl in 14 business days.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:54 PM   #2
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

LOCK poker is blacklisted at numerous places because of their management.

They have been involved in scandals, problems with their affiliates, and the CEO Jennifer Larson is clearly incompetent.

I suggest everyone google "Jennifer Larson Lock Poker" the top 5 or 6 results should provide some insight.

Its clear to me that Lock doesn't have our money. They can only pay out when they receive more deposits.

If cashouts improve and people get paid in a timely manor (say 6 weeks max, I think that's fair) then i'll eat my words and publicly state I was very wrong about Lock.

Personally, I got all my money off the site at .9 to the $ and that is good. Seriously, when a dollar on Lock is worth less than a dollar elsewhere management needs to wake the **** up.

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I guess by saying bad things about them I just broke their terms of agreement All of you voicing your frustration with lock better watch it.

And Shane, I think you've done as good of a job as your company let you. I have nothing against you and feel you've been fair and helpful.


All this said, I hope im wrong and LOCK thrives and becomes and excellent site to play on.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:55 PM   #3
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

good question....i'm assuming shane will chase up the cashout department to follow up on this for you
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:13 PM   #4
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

Only reason I didn't put this in the cash-out thread is because I'm not asking about my cash-out.
I really just want the cash-out time to reflect the reality of the situation.

Having the cashiers give us no answer or poor answers isn't fair to your suppor team or to us because the policies you have in place force them to give us **** answers.

It comes from the top where you guys need to fix our expectation by not making a processing time that you guys rarely if ever meet.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:09 AM   #5
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

agreed
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:04 AM   #6
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

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LOCK poker is blacklisted at numerous places because of their management.

They have been involved in scandals, problems with their affiliates, and the CEO Jennifer Larson is clearly incompetent.

I suggest everyone google "Jennifer Larson Lock Poker" the top 5 or 6 results should provide some insight.

Its clear to me that Lock doesn't have our money. They can only pay out when they receive more deposits.

If cashouts improve and people get paid in a timely manor (say 6 weeks max, I think that's fair) then i'll eat my words and publicly state I was very wrong about Lock.

Personally, I got all my money off the site at .9 to the $ and that is good. Seriously, when a dollar on Lock is worth less than a dollar elsewhere management needs to wake the **** up.



I guess by saying bad things about them I just broke their terms of agreement All of you voicing your frustration with lock better watch it.

And Shane, I think you've done as good of a job as your company let you. I have nothing against you and feel you've been fair and helpful.


All this said, I hope im wrong and LOCK thrives and becomes and excellent site to play on.

I'm curious to know which places they are blacklisted at...don't even understand how that would be possible or consequential rather.
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:50 PM   #7
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

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I'm curious to know which places they are blacklisted at...don't even understand how that would be possible or consequential rather.
We arent blacklisted anywhere to my knowledge.

As WVUskinsfan suggested google Jennifer Larson Lock Poker, then see where the top 3 results are from. Then try and find another article there that doesnt reference that same source.

Most journalisms relies on multiple sources to confirm something, all these articles have a singular source and that source has never once mentioned how he knows the other many people attacked on his site, again something you normally have to disclose in journalism.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:19 PM   #8
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

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We arent blacklisted anywhere to my knowledge.

As WVUskinsfan suggested google Jennifer Larson Lock Poker, then see where the top 3 results are from. Then try and find another article there that doesnt reference that same source.

Most journalisms relies on multiple sources to confirm something, all these articles have a singular source and that source has never once mentioned how he knows the other many people attacked on his site, again something you normally have to disclose in journalism.

I was being more sarcastic than curious, lol...i guess ya'all could be blacklisted at Merge. Don't really see why you'd care though; and come to think of it, they'd probably be delighted if 1200 players came back anyways

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Old 12-16-2012, 10:12 PM   #9
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

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We arent blacklisted anywhere to my knowledge.

As WVUskinsfan suggested google Jennifer Larson Lock Poker, then see where the top 3 results are from. Then try and find another article there that doesnt reference that same source.

Most journalisms relies on multiple sources to confirm something, all these articles have a singular source and that source has never once mentioned how he knows the other many people attacked on his site, again something you normally have to disclose in journalism.
So it takes you two days to respond and you don't even address the OPs questions. How much do they pay you for the awesome job you do?
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:05 AM   #10
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

OP, I am a US player who am currently waiting on my second cashout, which they promise 6-8 weeks..... well, I am on week nine now. I agree with you 100 percent. DO NOT LIE ABOUT IT, JUST BE HONEST SO WE KNOW! Here is the thing, writing a check and shipping it or wiring money to a money holder is quick and simple (I own a website. I know!) A check should take no more then 10 business days and wiring money should be two days, max. The issue here is obvious, they are a ponzi scheme like so many sites are that illegally operate in the US (full tilt anyone?). They arent giving you the money because they dont have it, plan and simple. When they do -- if they do, they will give it to you. I just suggest you keep more money out of your account then in.

And nothing against low stake players, but it is absolutely horrible when high stake players are treated like this. No customer support virtually and no certainty on when/if we will get out money.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:36 PM   #11
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

Here's some more alarming news.
On a network like Merge, specifically, Hero Poker,
Which is seemingly on the verge of closing,
I request a cashout to skrill two days ago.
It processed already and is in my account.
Yet a seemingly well oiled machine like Lock, who isn't on the verge of closing, or having trouble, allegedly...
Can't process a transaction in less then the allotted time.
Merge's process says 7-14 days including weekend.
They at least honor their word.
Unlike you guys who apparently just have lieing embedded in your company culture.

You look worse everyday Shane, worse than the site you are repping.

Stop lieing to us and yourself, and instead of just using empty words
I'd love for you to show us or demonstrate in any way that people are getting there money in 10-14 bus. days.
They aren't.
Stop lieing.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:07 PM   #12
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

I don't understand why it would take so long? Full tilt takes about an hour to withdraw to skrill.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:47 AM   #13
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

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I don't understand why it would take so long? Full tilt takes about an hour to withdraw to skrill.
Yeah,i have played on betsafe/pokerstars too,skrill withdrawals took ~2hours lol Now i'm waiting @ lock for my 240$ skrill a MONTH and still nothing
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:43 AM   #14
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

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Most journalisms relies on multiple sources to confirm something, all these articles have a singular source and that source has never once mentioned how he knows the other many people attacked on his site, again something you normally have to disclose in journalism.
Thanks for posting this, it lets me show another analogy: If all poker sites get Skrill cashouts processed within 1-3 business days max, why is Lock Poker taking weeks? Well okay, apart from Everleaf but they are broke. Do you guys by any chance have cashflow problems and why do other skins on your network with their own cashier (such as Intertops) get the job done in 1 day as well? Why does Lock seem to be the sole source for this delay?
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:51 AM   #15
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Re: Shane when will Misrepresentation of cashout times for Non U.S Players end.

Guess they have a different processor and it's completely impossible to use the same processor.. ;-)

if not that i'm sure he can fabricate another answer with no real content or explanation
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