Cool and you feel free to go back to only answering some posts and some threads.

just played 4 hours on lock first time raked ust over $330 MGR and profits, good start to the 16 tabling, bit hard to know when it's your turn sometimes on the tables tho doesn't flash very well.. nevertheless 21k should be hopefully achievable with more time and higher limits from next month!

Lady, I have reported your earlier rant. Calling another poster a "****ing clueless punk" and some of your other personal insults is very inappropriate.

Some people disagree with you. If you can't participate in the discussion in a productive and reasonable manner then you need to leave it alone. As was mentioned before, you really do need to calm down.

Going about it in that way is not going to convince anyone to agree with you, including Lock.

Finally, some other posters, including myself, are making reasonable points. You don't have to agree with them. But calling me and others clueless or idiots for not coming around to your way of thinking does not mean you won the argument.

Cliffs: post better. Stop calling everyone clueless. Stop being so rude.

Shane, that was a bad idea to merge the threads imo. I rather liked having two different threads. seems you did it "just to show" lady.

I think you still need to work on this forum tilt thing. Not a big deal with the merge. But it didn't accomplish anything and I know I certainly preferred having two separate threads.

Whether you like lady's posts or not, sarcastically telling a poster to return to their forum crusade is quite inappropriate. Would very much prefer it if you would find a way to convey your message without resorting to nastyness like that. Or don't convey any message at all. Both are better as far as representing your company.

I only really wanted the 2 threads initially to draw special attention to the new promo. Since that was achieved it was easier to merge the threads and keep all the discussions in the one place.

I especially want to keep our forum a little neater and I like the idea of having 1 singular thread in the archives so they can be easily found.

So Ladyholdem really just gave me the impetus to do something I wanted to do already.

Shane, we had one thread without lady's rants on why knights is terrible. Now we have none.

Different discussion points can get lost in threads that are too big as well imo but not everyone agrees with me on that. you haven't even announced the payout structure for knights yet. And posters will certainly want to continue discussing it well into the month. Easier to follow with the two different threads imo but no biggie.

I guess we can start a separate thread for knights if it really becomes necessary or desireable.

http://lockpoker.eu/promos/welcome-bonus/ Correct me if I am wrong but from the numbers I got from this link, the welcome bonus is equivalent to ONLY 6% rakeback for ringame player :
5/(84/1) = 0.059 ~ 6%
(5$ paid per 84 VIP points which are earned at the rate of 1 VIP point per $1 raked for ring players)

This cant be right because 6% clearance rate is just wayyyy too slow.

Also, If I register with an affiliate for flat RB can I still exchange my VIP point for cash? If so at what rate? There is pretty limited information on Lock website about this.

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong on this. There have been some changes to some different aspects of VIP, etc and I haven't followed all of it. But I believe it still operates like this:


$1 in rake = 1 VIP point for everyone at the table.

So if you are playing 5-handed and the rake for that hand is $1 then you receive 1 VIP point. But your own personal MGR for that hand was $0.20.

Consequently, you don't really know EXACTLY what your RB% will be. But you can make some decent estimates. 9-handed will have a better percentage than 6-handed. But it's all quite good.

Can we get SNG leaderboard details please?

As soon as I have them you will have them.

I play through an affiliate and convert 700 points for $10.

well shane said that they will run a leaderboard for sng's and one for cash games. He said they may be based on win rate from what he has heard. I was wondering if someone would qualify for this leaderboard if say for instance they played 1 hand and won 100 big blinds. That would be a pretty high win rate but I would think they would make you have to play a certain number of hands or tournaments to be eligible for these leaderboards. Otherwise people could exploit them by playing small amounts if they had a high win rate right away so basically these could be just rewarding players for running hot, which they already get rewarded for by running hot.

I'm assuming these leaderboards are meant to offer prizes since they are listed in the promotions thread. I could be wrong and it will just be a leaderboard to see who is winning at higher rates so I can have people to be jealous of . Either way hopefully when they release the full details we will all know.

yup i understand, i am also hoping to get clarification on what is meant by the ring game leaderboard where it said quality of play.

What about Lock fix its bugs with double charging and crappy commnication before rolling out new promotions. lol

I agree with ladybruin. I am 100% recreational player and only get to play on my off time. I generate several hundred in rake but it takes me awhile resulting in no ronin. I have received less than 5$ (lol) because of the caps (& rakeback)
. I think maybe uncap the first 5 or 6 levels would be bueno for the majority of lock player base. The true grinder is getting all of ronin. Let the fish get some and it will benefit the winning player too because that money will for sure be in play

Here's where you're mistaken: Ronin wasn't meant for the fish. It was meant to reward the players on the site who put in tons of hours and keep games running. Rec players already get great rewards.

Here is where you are mistaken. Ronin was meant for more than just some top grinders and the 25,000 proves it. I'm crossing posting a bit here, but Lock on their own decided after only one month of limited rewards to adjust the number from 2,900 to 25,000. That is a huge increase. People get fired for making mistakes that need adjusting this high. August was a mistake and you think it verifies your point. But guess what the 2,900 is going to 25,000. They aren't even going to get 2,900 this month. So where is that 25,000 going? It is going to fix a mistake Lock saw in how August ran. Are they changing it just a bit? Nope. It is going from 2,900 to 25,000. You and a few other are being proven wrong simply my Lock's own action. Ronin wasn't just meant for a few top grinder.

Lock's own actions prove you wrong.

Cool.......What time you leaving for work? So we can have some peace and quiet around here for a few hours

Excellent response to not have a logical response.

That'd be a valid point if... Ronin=BOTK

You're way off base.

I didn't feel like looking for a "face palm" or "not sure if serious" pic. But if that is best logic you can come up with, this debate is over. LOL.

So wait wait let me get this straight, Ronin ran unlimited (not just for high grinders) every single time but August. And it's replacement is coming in 25,000 rewards strong (not just high grinders). But I'm way off base. You made a funny.

There is nothing in the past/future that shows Ronin/BOTK was/is just for high grinders which is the center piece of your posts. Me thinks you have been proven wrong but won't admit to it. Reading the de-evolution of your posts is like watching a slow train wreck.

the top grinders on the site def deserve way more than others. i agree with that 100%. i just don't understand why i played over 15k hands this month and received 5$ for ronin.....does not compute

a true online fish could care less about this stuff imo. most have probably never even heard of rakeback let alone rake chase. there is a different type of player in this equation. there is a large % of players who care and work on their game but know they are not the best by any means, but realize every ounce of promotion ultimately helps their win rate.

i am having a horrid month e.v. wise and a pretty big loser before rakeback and deposit bonus. the extra 100-300 in ronin would be of tremendous help. i was happy with july ronin but august not so much....i think there is a happy medium and august ronin was way too top heavy....no biggie tho and just one mans opinion.

Your continued argument is based off the fact that Ronin was ALWAYS unlimited. I've already explained this wasn't the case but you keep ignoring that fact to try to make your point. Ronin was only unlimited for June/July.

Your argument is like saying because you gave all the money in your pocket to a busket one day, now you have to give all of your money in your pocket to every busker you see. You are trying to turn an act of generosity to the norm.

Shane, in recent days you have shown your lack impartiality to modding this thread as a rep. This latest post doesn't help your cause either. Part of that lack of impartiality/tilt was pointed out by Microbob yesterday. But let me hit you with some more of my logic crusade. Your above post mentions Ronin but conveniently leaves out what??? Ah you left out BOTK. The former title of this thread before you merged it a moment of tilt (again someone elses description of your actions).

Lets try this from the top. There is no past indication Ronin was meant for high grinders only. AND the part you conviently left out...There is proof positive in Lock's future actions with 25,000 reward that the replacement of Ronin/BOTK is not only for high grinders.

Lock's own actions prove you wrong.

For future reference, logic works better when you don't look like a hypocrite for only telling half a story.

I have never in my life seen someone use the word logic so many times without once using any actual logic.

Your future posts in this vein will be deleted so other forum members can continue a sensible conversation on the promotions without your continued interjections.