I know I know...I dont want to be that guy. I know theres swings. But does anyone else notice a lot of coolers on Lock? I swear, every time I sit down I'm either a part of a hand or see one where there's QQ vs AK, AA vs KK, nut flush vs second nut flush etc etc. I know these things happen, but the consistency at which it happens on this site is way higher than I've ever seen before. Just wondering if I'm the only one noticing this (which would just make me paranoid, but you cant blame me with all the troubles this site has been having) or if it might be happening so the site can increase its rake.

no, its not rigged. Having said that this guy had me wondering. Thats insane.

It's just how poker goes. Swings, coolers, heaters. We've all been there. Just today I had my AA against an AK all in pre and lost and my middle set 10's outdrawn by quad 2's within 3 min of each other. Once the money goes in you cant let the outcome effect you or start to think the sites are rigged. So horny....

players with _ in their name don't work properly with ptr.

Online poker is not rigged in general.

It is however, rigged against me, as everyone knows!

No it is rigged against me wilmont.

if you cant handle the pace of the game then go play live and get coolered at a slower pace.

It's not rigged but I did just get boned. Had AA raised heavy preflop got 2 callers Flop is K J 2 Raise heavy on flop one guy shoves other calls I call cards turn over my AA vs another AA vs JJ he hit trips. I've played online poker for 8 years and oddly enough have never had AA vs AA so was shocked to see it.

how does being rigged increase the rake?

sometimes all I can do is laugh.

8 years of online play and still can't tell the difference between sets and trips. Also, 8 years and n AA v AA? Do you play 8 hands/day or something?

agreed 8 yrs and don't know what a set or trips is.

And never had AA vs AA before. I think 8 hands a day is way to much, maybe 2 hands a day.

I know the difference but it's really all the same to me 3 of a kind is 3 of a kind. I have played millions of hands live+online combined and never seen it. Though I have seen some crazy stuff lately. My SET of 2s i hope that makes you happy was beat by Quad 8s on runner runner 8s today too.

3 times as many hands online vs live = 3 times as many bad beats,coolers,setups,etc. online plain and simple.NOT RIGGED....

I wasnt posting this to complain about bad beats. Just pointing out that I noticed way more cooler situations on here as opposed to when I used to play on FTP. But if no one else agrees I suppose I'm just being paranoid.

Something up with that _GimmeDAT_ and "wrongg"

They seem to play the same days (both haven't played since the 11th).

"Wrongg" has only lost ~$300k to _GimmeDAT_, and the next biggest loss would be ~$30k.

_GimmeDAT_ has a winrate of 50BB/100 @ ~900 hands playing $100/$200 PLO HU



Money laundering much?

some people say ftp was rigged and you say you ran better there. do you see what im saying here?

It's not that online poker is rigged. It's just that god obviously hates those who get coolered all the time.

I don't think its rigged.. But the first day of the new lock, I had pocket aces twice in the first hour, and both of my pocket aces got cracked by Q9... to a 8 9 10 J Q str8. Both made on the turn.. Both all in pre flop. Weird eh?

I had the worst bad beat yesterday.

Basically flopped the nuts, and the board went runner-runner on me to fill in the nuts that I already had. There was 3% chance of that happening. I went all in and was called, but it was a split pot.

But I've seen it all, whether online or in live play.
I think Lock is all right. There is one other site that I thought was rigged, out of the dozen I've played at. Much older site, but I won't get into that.

Again, people are misunderstanding this post. It's not about running good or bad. It's not about getting all in on the flop with the nuts and losing to a runner runner. It's about how often I'm seeing second nut vs nut flushes, set over set, and AQ on the button running into AK in the BB. It just seems like there are a lot of situations that arise which gets people to put more money in while rake is being taken. With all the bounced checks and laggy pay outs going on, leaving players wondering if the site is broke it would just make sense for them to rigg the hands in order to make some more money off rake.

Even if it is rigged, there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. It has long been debated, and people belong to one side or the other, but they all still play anyway. So honestly, debating the subject is rather pointless. Even if it is rigged, you aren't going to stop playing, and neither am I or anyone else that is playing...because we are all just a bunch of sickos.

Set over sets, nut flush to 2nd nut flush happens all the time...but I mostly play Omaha, so..yeah.

This is a topic that i've always been suspicious about. I've thought the very same thing lots of times. I mean, being able to manipulate the cards to create bigger rakes so the company can make more money makes sense. But, at the same time it seems like if that was the case there would've been people that's worked at a site that would have already come out and brought it to light. And that being said, i don't believe that i've ever seen so many quads EVER, on FT or Stars, until i started playing on Merge. No way to tell really, but we will continue to play and we all know it.

I opted to use my 1st post for this wonderful debate. Go play 1,000 hands live and keep track of every single one. Then play 1,000 online and compare the two. You will stay around the same winning %'s. It seems to "happen more often" because it does. It's not more times than live, it's just at a much faster rate. Some of the smartest people in the world have played or still play online poker, if it was rigged, it would have been outed by now. NOW, can we all PLEASE quit blaming variance on a site being rigged???

**Fun side note** My sickest beat ever was in a live WPT tournament. AAvsAA all in pre. I get 4 flushed for all of my chips but 185 and 5 people away from the money. From top 5 in chips to right before the bubble and missing out on $3k. I'm sad just thinking about it

Lock is probably too incompetent to rig the RNG, even if they wanted to.