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Old 06-30-2012, 03:52 PM   #46
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Re: **Revolution Tournament Improvement Thread**

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Appreciate the changes to turbo rebuys Rizen. These tournaments will be a lot more fun to play.
what changes were made?
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:18 PM   #47
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what changes were made?
starting stacks were doubled.
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Old 06-30-2012, 08:20 PM   #48
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Have already played a couple and enjoyed the change. Also makes it more reasonable to late reg and actually play rather than reg and be blinded arr-in. Even a late reg at the last minute is 10bbs if you double buy.
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:05 PM   #49
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All times are Eastern....Just doing a schedule until 4:00PM, will continue if you think something like this would have a chance. Added a few new MTT types to the mix. 2 running every half hour would be absolutely perfect IMO.

12:00pm- $10+1 Deepstack $1,250 Guaranteed
12:00pm- $30+3 Deepstack $2,000 Guaranteed
12:30pm- $5 Rebuy $2,000 Guaranteed
12:30pm- $3 Rebuy Turbo $1,250 Guaranteed
1:00pm- $20+2 $2,000 Guaranteed
1:00pm- $15+1 Bounty $1,000 Guaranteed
1:30pm- $30+3 6 Max $1,500 Guaranteed
1:30pm- $20+2 Mixed Hold Em $1,500 Guaranteed
2:00pm- $55+5 Deepstack $3,000 Guaranteed
2:00pm- $10+1 1R1A $2,000 Guaranteed
2:30pm- $40+4 Limit Holdem $1,000 Guaranteed
2:30pm- $30+3 Deepstack Turbo $3,000 Guaranteed
3:00pm- $100+9 Deepstack $5,000 Guaranteed
3:00pm- $20+2 6 Max $1,500 Guaranteed
3:30pm- $50+5 Rebuy $4,000 Guaranteed
3:30pm- $10 2R1A $2,000 Guaranteed
4:00pm- $30 3-GAME Holdem (NL,PL,FL) $2,500 Guaranteed
4:00pm- $200+13 Super Stacked (10K stacks) $8,000 Guaranteed
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:56 PM   #50
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Please stop rigging the games. I know you probably think I'm just mad over a bad beat but that isn't the case. I have played thousands of tournaments on Lock in the past two years and the stuff you see is just plain bogus. I know you just like to chalk it up to variance but you are not fooling anyone. I'm not saying it's rigged for any one particular player. However, the bigger stack wins the vast majority of all-in showdowns regardless if they have the best hand or not pre-flop. I see people (myself included) get 1-2 outed so often its sickening. I realize bad beats happen, but when it happens almost every time you play you start to wonder what the hell is going on. I theorize its rigged for the bigger stack simply to expedite the tournaments so they don't drag on forever. This is not fair to anyone and really takes the fun and integrity out of the game.

Not only that, but every flop seems to be what some like to call "action flops". Essentially meaning that many flops are geared to entice all players involved in the hand to bet/call due to the implied odds. I have recorded empirical data that absolutely suggests the site is rigged. I strongly encourage you to consult with your programmers to develop a new RNG that truly resembles actual live poker. Anyone who has played a decent amount of live and internet poker can 100% tell the difference between the two.


luckyone1, redeposit, get it in with 2 outs, profit.

gogogogoooo.

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Old 07-01-2012, 11:46 AM   #51
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luckyone1, redeposit, get it in with 2 outs, profit.

gogogogoooo.
I know bro, it can totally be used to ones advantage if they are aware of it. Still, I don't think its the right way to play poker....perhaps I'm in the minority on this one.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:45 PM   #52
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Re: **Revolution Tournament Improvement Thread**

I am absolutely furious with the switching of tables in multi-table tournaments. Three times in both a tournament last night and a separate one this morning I was moved from the button or cutoff (after JUST posting my blinds) to under the gun on a new table.

With a short stack/medium stack in a tourney that's 2-3 hrs in and approaching the bubble, getting sent to UTG and re-posting, seeing 62os and watching everyone shove in front of you is the most tilting thing in the world. It RUINS a tournament if you're a short stack and if you're a medium stack you'll lose significant ground.

The thing is, it's such an EASY problem to fix. It is UNBELIEVABLE that the software can't just take someone who is UTG on Table 6 and move them to the exact same position on Table 8 when Table 8 needs another player (hypothetically). Why take a random player? It's incorrect. Other players are given an advantage in that I have to post blinds for 6 out of 10 hands (since i get switched twice) and miss out on almost 2 WHOLE orbits. In both tourneys I had ~13 BBs before this and then after it I'm in crisis mode. It's a problem I cannot foresee and I miss out on up to 16 FREE hands. This can be the difference in surviving a tournament or having to shove ATC late position just because I have 7 BBs and no other choice.

This would NEVER happen in a live tournament and PS and FTP's software would always put you in the same position (give or take a spot) at the new table, making my feelings about the table switch indifferent (of course, not taking into account playing against new opponents). Such a joke.

Of course, there is nothing that can be done anymore but "we'll look into it in the future" is not good enough for me. This, along with 25/50 starting blinds in rebuy tournaments (the only tournaments with guarantees worth playing) is convincing me to look elsewhere.

Update: this should go without saying for most, but when you get moved from being button on one table to UTG on another you basically just get to play 6 out of the next 8 hands in the worst position possible. So not only do I overpost, but I get to be out of position all the time and don't get to play mid or late position in the orbit. unbelievably tilting since as a short stack im looking to raise/shove and when there's always 7 people left to act it makes the world a lot more impossible.

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Old 07-01-2012, 07:26 PM   #53
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Yep. Have had that happen several times. Obviously it's "fair" because it can happen to anyone at any time, but should still not exist.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:13 PM   #54
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please take out H4H once we are ITM of the 100K. structure in this is bad enough (please fix) and having to pause the tournament for $20 pay jumps sucks. I can see once you get down to 18, but until then just let us play.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:01 AM   #55
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Please run a sit and go promo to get some sit n gos players on the site
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:07 AM   #56
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Please run a sit and go promo to get some sit n gos players on the site
yeah they need to get them 18 player sit and go's running
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:13 AM   #57
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I actually do a large part of the tournament schedule, which is part of the reason I've been less active over here (been SUPER busy between WSOP and this stuff).

I'll address a few points here:

1) rebuy structures - yes I started them at 25/50, but I also added a 30/60 and 40/80 level. basically I removed two early levels and added to middle levels. This change was based on a lot of the feedback I received from both players and pros.

2) Satellites - can you give me some times and types of satellites you would like to see? I def want to add more satellites to these tournaments, but I'm still feeling out what players like the most/are the most successful, so any feedback I would consider very helpful.

3) can you give me some specific suggestions for times/buy ins etc you'd like to see. I'm happy to add more tournaments, although obviously if they're not successful I'll have to change/remove them.

-Rizen
i really like the rebuys starting out at 25-50... but i wanna see more 6max mtts
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:17 AM   #58
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Rizen,
I am not sure how others feel, but I think that adding a level (30/60 or 40/80) between 25/50 and 50/100 would be much more preferable than a 5/10 level. 5/10 doesn't create much action and starting with 300 vs 150 bbs is not as necessary.

However, say you have a starting stack (3k chips), jumping from 25/50 to 50/100, you go from 60bbs to 30bbs. That is huge and takes out much of the mid-stack play. 30/60 would give everybody time to maneuver at the 50bb stack size that is critical towards chipping up by making plays.

Just adding that level alone would be a big improvement. A 250/500 level would be nice as well, and go a long ways towards ensuring stack sizes are a bit more playable in the mid to late stages.

Either increasing blind levels to 15 mins or increasing stack sizes (or both), especially for the weekly special tournies and a few selected regular ones ($33 fo at 5:15 and $60 fo at 6:00) would really raise the quality of the schedule and promote both more regs and casual players to enter.

Thanks for your responses and efforts to make the site better Rizen.
all of this is gold
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:36 AM   #59
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Re: **Revolution Tournament Improvement Thread**

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all of this is gold
I added a 30/60, 40/80, and 250/500/50 level across the board. I doubled the starting stacks/rebuys for the turbo rebuys. As always appreciate feedback.

I also added the new recommended morning tournaments (albeit with lower guarantees). I will keep an eye on those the next few weeks and if they're doing well I'll be happy to raise the guarantees.

Thanks

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Old 07-02-2012, 12:35 PM   #60
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Re: **Revolution Tournament Improvement Thread**

Is it possible to get the HO (Pot Limit Hold’em, Pot Limit Omaha) tournaments back. Overall, Pot Limit tournaments seem to be lacking. Not that they were so frequent on merge, but a couple of the daily scheduled tournaments were great. I don’t see them any more at the microstakes $1-$11 buy-ins as frequently.
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