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Old 07-01-2012, 11:46 AM   #51
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Re: **Revolution Tournament Improvement Thread**

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luckyone1, redeposit, get it in with 2 outs, profit.

gogogogoooo.
I know bro, it can totally be used to ones advantage if they are aware of it. Still, I don't think its the right way to play poker....perhaps I'm in the minority on this one.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:45 PM   #52
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Re: **Revolution Tournament Improvement Thread**

I am absolutely furious with the switching of tables in multi-table tournaments. Three times in both a tournament last night and a separate one this morning I was moved from the button or cutoff (after JUST posting my blinds) to under the gun on a new table.

With a short stack/medium stack in a tourney that's 2-3 hrs in and approaching the bubble, getting sent to UTG and re-posting, seeing 62os and watching everyone shove in front of you is the most tilting thing in the world. It RUINS a tournament if you're a short stack and if you're a medium stack you'll lose significant ground.

The thing is, it's such an EASY problem to fix. It is UNBELIEVABLE that the software can't just take someone who is UTG on Table 6 and move them to the exact same position on Table 8 when Table 8 needs another player (hypothetically). Why take a random player? It's incorrect. Other players are given an advantage in that I have to post blinds for 6 out of 10 hands (since i get switched twice) and miss out on almost 2 WHOLE orbits. In both tourneys I had ~13 BBs before this and then after it I'm in crisis mode. It's a problem I cannot foresee and I miss out on up to 16 FREE hands. This can be the difference in surviving a tournament or having to shove ATC late position just because I have 7 BBs and no other choice.

This would NEVER happen in a live tournament and PS and FTP's software would always put you in the same position (give or take a spot) at the new table, making my feelings about the table switch indifferent (of course, not taking into account playing against new opponents). Such a joke.

Of course, there is nothing that can be done anymore but "we'll look into it in the future" is not good enough for me. This, along with 25/50 starting blinds in rebuy tournaments (the only tournaments with guarantees worth playing) is convincing me to look elsewhere.

Update: this should go without saying for most, but when you get moved from being button on one table to UTG on another you basically just get to play 6 out of the next 8 hands in the worst position possible. So not only do I overpost, but I get to be out of position all the time and don't get to play mid or late position in the orbit. unbelievably tilting since as a short stack im looking to raise/shove and when there's always 7 people left to act it makes the world a lot more impossible.

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Old 07-01-2012, 07:26 PM   #53
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Re: **Revolution Tournament Improvement Thread**

Yep. Have had that happen several times. Obviously it's "fair" because it can happen to anyone at any time, but should still not exist.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:13 PM   #54
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please take out H4H once we are ITM of the 100K. structure in this is bad enough (please fix) and having to pause the tournament for $20 pay jumps sucks. I can see once you get down to 18, but until then just let us play.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:01 AM   #55
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Please run a sit and go promo to get some sit n gos players on the site
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:07 AM   #56
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Please run a sit and go promo to get some sit n gos players on the site
yeah they need to get them 18 player sit and go's running
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:13 AM   #57
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I actually do a large part of the tournament schedule, which is part of the reason I've been less active over here (been SUPER busy between WSOP and this stuff).

I'll address a few points here:

1) rebuy structures - yes I started them at 25/50, but I also added a 30/60 and 40/80 level. basically I removed two early levels and added to middle levels. This change was based on a lot of the feedback I received from both players and pros.

2) Satellites - can you give me some times and types of satellites you would like to see? I def want to add more satellites to these tournaments, but I'm still feeling out what players like the most/are the most successful, so any feedback I would consider very helpful.

3) can you give me some specific suggestions for times/buy ins etc you'd like to see. I'm happy to add more tournaments, although obviously if they're not successful I'll have to change/remove them.

-Rizen
i really like the rebuys starting out at 25-50... but i wanna see more 6max mtts
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:17 AM   #58
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Rizen,
I am not sure how others feel, but I think that adding a level (30/60 or 40/80) between 25/50 and 50/100 would be much more preferable than a 5/10 level. 5/10 doesn't create much action and starting with 300 vs 150 bbs is not as necessary.

However, say you have a starting stack (3k chips), jumping from 25/50 to 50/100, you go from 60bbs to 30bbs. That is huge and takes out much of the mid-stack play. 30/60 would give everybody time to maneuver at the 50bb stack size that is critical towards chipping up by making plays.

Just adding that level alone would be a big improvement. A 250/500 level would be nice as well, and go a long ways towards ensuring stack sizes are a bit more playable in the mid to late stages.

Either increasing blind levels to 15 mins or increasing stack sizes (or both), especially for the weekly special tournies and a few selected regular ones ($33 fo at 5:15 and $60 fo at 6:00) would really raise the quality of the schedule and promote both more regs and casual players to enter.

Thanks for your responses and efforts to make the site better Rizen.
all of this is gold
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:36 AM   #59
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all of this is gold
I added a 30/60, 40/80, and 250/500/50 level across the board. I doubled the starting stacks/rebuys for the turbo rebuys. As always appreciate feedback.

I also added the new recommended morning tournaments (albeit with lower guarantees). I will keep an eye on those the next few weeks and if they're doing well I'll be happy to raise the guarantees.

Thanks

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Old 07-02-2012, 12:35 PM   #60
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Is it possible to get the HO (Pot Limit Hold’em, Pot Limit Omaha) tournaments back. Overall, Pot Limit tournaments seem to be lacking. Not that they were so frequent on merge, but a couple of the daily scheduled tournaments were great. I don’t see them any more at the microstakes $1-$11 buy-ins as frequently.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:38 PM   #61
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Can we start the Sunday $10 10k gtd with at least 3k chips instead of 2k and maybe add a low buy in deepstack higher gtd tourny on sundays. Or maybe just make the $20 8k gtd on Sundays a deepstack instead of starting with 3k chips.

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What about these Rizen? Also I remember on Merge you had a $5 superstack 2k gtd on Sundays. How about a $5 deepstack 1k gtd on Sundays?

Thanks.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:24 PM   #62
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+10 to SNG promo. I was like OMGOMGOMG when a 45man actually kicked off. More traffic please.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:30 PM   #63
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I added a 30/60, 40/80, and 250/500/50 level across the board. I doubled the starting stacks/rebuys for the turbo rebuys. As always appreciate feedback.

I also added the new recommended morning tournaments (albeit with lower guarantees). I will keep an eye on those the next few weeks and if they're doing well I'll be happy to raise the guarantees.

Thanks

-Rizen
tyty. hopefully this will help the 100K as it was playing incredibly shallow approaching and itm. also please give the $11 10K 3K starting stacks, along with every other guaranteed freezeout!

any plans for a special Saturday tournament during the day? i think a $55 15K anywhere from 1-3 PM would rock.
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Old 07-07-2012, 09:38 AM   #64
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Re: **Revolution Tournament Improvement Thread**

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I could add a 5/10 level at the beginning (effectively doubling starting stacks) and a 250/500 level in the middle.

Realize I have to balance A LOT of things for these. It's not just a matter of coming up with the best structure possible but making sure tournaments start and end by certain times (for instance, 7pm tournaments appeal to a lot of casual players, which is GREAT, but if they last until 4-5am that's too late). I've looked at some of the durations of current tournaments and I think adding these two levels would help some. I'd like to try that for a few weeks and get some feedback and then if that isn't enough adjust level times or starting stacks. Thoughts?

BTW - as a player I always thought this sort of thing was super simple, but I never really realize all the extranious things that have to be balanced as well. I'm happy to try and respond to feedback as well as possible, but it's definitely a juggling act to keep everyone happy.

Thanks

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As a player everyone is probably thinking more at his own preferences , style , schedule, etc so I do realize that to keep up everybody pleased could be a complicated thing. I was just giving a suggestion to make some changes sooner and maybe after some feedback do the needed, more complicated, tweaks. Anyways with the latest changes I think you're going in the right direction and the fact that you're willing to listen to player opinions is a very big plus. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:40 AM   #65
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+10 to SNG promo.
While Lock seems to be growing as a whole, SNG traffic appears to be declining to me.

Will there be any kind of SNG promo? Will the SNG leaderboard return?
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:18 PM   #66
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I hope so. I've started mixing SNG formats to try to get enough tables going.
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:28 PM   #67
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Re: **Revolution Tournament Improvement Thread**

Your flagship Sunday tourney doesn't even have late registration.

Words cannot explain how epic fail that is.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:16 PM   #68
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Your flagship Sunday tourney doesn't even have late registration.

Words cannot explain how epic fail that is.
All tournaments have late registration. There were def some errors yesterday and perhaps that's what you were seeing, but there is def late reg on flagship Sunday tournaments.

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Old 07-09-2012, 01:47 PM   #69
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looks like the sight is still suffering today. took me forever to get on the site now that im connected and logged in i see nothing in the main section for MTTS just blank slates...
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:02 PM   #70
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All tournaments have late registration. There were def some errors yesterday and perhaps that's what you were seeing, but there is def late reg on flagship Sunday tournaments.

-Rizen
Yea, I'm pretty sure I was trying to reg when it was paused.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:43 PM   #71
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i would like to see more sats for the 100k and 65k gur, like double shootouts or even just small rebuy adds ons , or single table sats anything more than what they have now would be great
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:14 AM   #72
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Suggesting more NLH regular tournaments and deepstacks and 6max for lower buy-in's opposed to turbo and R/A. For the recreational players looking to play $2.20's - $5.50's. Lobby is cluttered with to many R/A's and turbos in that buy-in range imho.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:15 AM   #73
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i would like to see more sats for the 100k and 65k gur, like double shootouts or even just small rebuy adds ons , or single table sats anything more than what they have now would be great
Sit & Go step tournaments to the Sunday events would be nice.
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:02 PM   #74
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6 max plo8 tourneys
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:08 AM   #75
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A lot of good comments in here... I would love to see some more regular nlh gtds between $2.20 and 5.50$. Even more non gtds would be ok being that the multi-table sngs rarely take off.

+1 to sng promotions. I would also like to request higher buyin 10man turbo sngs with 6 minute blinds. The only buyin with this format are the 4.60+.40 sngs and these seem to be the most popular of the sngs between $2 and $10. Something around $11 would be nice in this format.
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