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Petition to Remove FAIR PLAY Petition to Remove FAIR PLAY

06-22-2013 , 05:55 AM
Hi everybody,
i play HU SNG consistently on revolution and i've never seen such slow action as in the last week, games r dead!

Also what is the point of having reported in the poker client 3000+ players if in reality they can't join the same games, you r segregating lock players form the rest of revolution players, that's a joke.

Basically you have started a business with a network formed of multiple skins then you have ruined the network health with several skins reporting problems for reconciliation payments and finally you re segregating your players.

You re both segregating players based on ability level and skin, so it's clear that the main goal is to rake their soul, is it Fair Play?

I don't think so.

Lock rules are destorying a whole Network, just 4-6 months ago this network was a completely different story, payout were processed in a timely manner and playerpool was more than decent, look at it now, you have destroyed an ecosystem.

I have an idea, i think is pretty good, go away leave Revolution Network and create Lock Nerwork at that point your players will be segregated for sure!

gg Lock!
06-22-2013 , 09:08 AM
you think they don't know people dont want it? There's a difference between doing something because they think is right and doing it because they have no other choice but to do it so they dont go broke and slow down the cashouts.
06-22-2013 , 09:45 AM
Signed!
06-22-2013 , 11:00 AM
OP is kind of lol, but I support any petition to have FPT removed.

It's truly pathetic that the Revolution Network cares so little about the concerns of their players (and Lock should claim accountability for their contribution in segregating their portion of the networks player pool).

Only a failed policy change (which Revolution is too proud and/or ignorant to change) can be to blame for this:

06-22-2013 , 03:48 PM
Not sure it will helped, but I'm all for removing FPT.
Signed.
06-22-2013 , 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhuber2010

Only a failed policy change (which Revolution is too proud and/or ignorant to change) can be to blame for this:

I'm sure the insanely slow cash outs aren't helping drive traffic either.
06-22-2013 , 05:56 PM
Signed.
06-22-2013 , 09:20 PM
Who gives a **** about FPT.....I just want my cash outs!
06-22-2013 , 09:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RikaKazak
Who gives a **** about FPT.....I just want my cash outs!
The people who have 0 tables available them to play poker. We can't even win money to cash out...

06-23-2013 , 06:37 AM
fair play is good but the rake should be split to half when one cant play against the weakest players. half is still ok as new players cost money and will produce some middle level players to move up.
06-23-2013 , 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MKarne
fair play is good but the rake should be split to half when one cant play against the weakest players. half is still ok as new players cost money and will produce some middle level players to move up.
How is fair play any good? Do you only play one table at a time? Do you not notice that traffic has gone down considerably. Also, laughable that lock would ever even consider dropping half the rake why would they? They are in this to make money after all, and to be honest a pretty terrible idea in my opinion.
06-23-2013 , 08:01 PM
Signed.
06-24-2013 , 04:21 AM
Man, after looking at all the crap Lock puts its players through, I'm surprised there are still people playing on Lock and posting in these forums. I figured everyone would have jumped ship already. I guess if you have substantial amounts of money you're still hoping they'll come through.
06-24-2013 , 04:52 AM
Lock loves threads like these. Why would anyone play there when there is only a 10% chance of seeing the money you win?

Look at that traffic chart. In 6 months the peak cash traffic will be 0-300. They will have a small poker room's revenue with a large poker room's debt.

To expect a small, failing room to be able to pay the debts of the former largest US poker site, especially with their payout backlog, is irrational.

What happens in January of 2014 when they only have 50 cash tables running during peak hours?

If you cashed out today that little room with 50 active tables in January is not going to pay you. They couldn't even if they wanted to. Deposits were spent as they came in.

Jen will pull the plug and run with what little money there is left long before Lock is reduced to 200-300 peak players.

The ship is sinking. They could give 200% rakeback but only a fool would deposit. You can do what you want obviously. At best 10-20% of the money you deposit between now and then will be used to pay players from Cardschat so you will be helping the poker community somewhat.

I will end this rant with this:

- Would you lend Bernie Madoff money?
- Would you invest in Enron?
- Would you deposit at Ultimate Bet 2.0?
06-25-2013 , 03:42 AM
also u can just uninstall lock poker and dont look back like i did
06-25-2013 , 04:04 AM
Petition to remove lock poker
06-25-2013 , 01:51 PM
Petition accepted by the Revolution Network.

Thank you to all subscriber!

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-19-2013 at 06:23 AM.
06-26-2013 , 03:17 AM
Except for all Lock players playing anything above 50NL

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-19-2013 at 06:20 AM.
06-26-2013 , 03:22 AM
I could be wrong, but even if you were playing .5/1 or bigger on lock, I am pretty sure based on fair play technology, you would still be grouped with other players on lock of similar ability... removing fair play on lock, even if you are segregated from other skins in the cash games is DEFINATELY a step in the right direction... Fairplay was killing games, and even if lock cash players can only play lock cash players, this is a huge improvement getting rid of this FPT..

MJ
06-26-2013 , 09:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mennas Joint
I could be wrong, but even if you were playing .5/1 or bigger on lock, I am pretty sure based on fair play technology, you would still be grouped with other players on lock of similar ability... removing fair play on lock, even if you are segregated from other skins in the cash games is DEFINATELY a step in the right direction... Fairplay was killing games, and even if lock cash players can only play lock cash players, this is a huge improvement getting rid of this FPT..

MJ
Exactly! There were two segregations:

1) Segregation between players cause of the FPT.

2) Segregation between skins what has nothing to do with FPT.

FPT is thanksfully removed but there is still a segregation between skins. The Lock cash game player segregation from other skins is at least not a problem, I was playing on Lock and the traffic was enough. The new segregation of HU sngs is a problem, because the traffic was anyway not that much while there was no segregation.

When you take a look at the "FAQ for FAIR PLAY TECHNOLOGY" thread you´ll see that other skins segregate as well their tables/players from other skins, not all but a part of it.
06-26-2013 , 09:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiCane
Except for all Lock players playing anything above 50NL
What's particularly amusing about this is that Shane claimed that Lock wanted to get rid of FPT but the network wouldn't allow it. Now, the network is getting rid of FPT, but Lock is keeping it at a certain level.

What, Shane lie? Say it ain't so....
06-26-2013 , 01:17 PM
Anyone that cares about Fair play I don't feel sorry for you when you lose your roll. The site takes 5-6 months to pay people out. It is a matter of time before they completely go under. If you don't have your cash out pending I doubt you will ever see a dime of it. For god sakes the money is being sold at 40 cents on the dollar.
06-26-2013 , 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SGT RJ
What's particularly amusing about this is that Shane claimed that Lock wanted to get rid of FPT but the network wouldn't allow it. Now, the network is getting rid of FPT, but Lock is keeping it at a certain level.

What, Shane lie? Say it ain't so....
06-26-2013 , 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SGT RJ
What's particularly amusing about this is that Shane claimed that Lock wanted to get rid of FPT but the network wouldn't allow it. Now, the network is getting rid of FPT, but Lock is keeping it at a certain level.

What, Shane lie? Say it ain't so....
Thats because they can afford to reimburse the other skins for the lower limits (since the losses aren't all that big).

They can't afford to payout the losses for the larger stakes
06-27-2013 , 08:46 AM
I dont know if this relates since I have money on JUICY and not LOCK. But Im mostly a live cash player and like to see if my game has improved with playing higher buy in 9-Max tables. I dont kid myself, I look at this as an education thing but 2 things I have noticed.

I have been on waiting lists for 9-Man tables for over 2 hours for nl20 table. I look at the JUICY lobby and its only 1 or 2 - 9 man tables running for each level above nl04. There seems to be a lot more 6 man tables running but I need my education to last longer than 6 man orbits.

NOW AM I SEEING THIS RIGHT. I get into a nl50 room the other night, and its like NIT city. Im expecting all this crazy stuff, to try to figure out and no one is playing any hands, except for the the blinds folding to the $1.50 raise from LP. This went on for over an hour. (Just reporting what I saw, I know nl50 isnt played like this but Im only rolled on Juicy and Tops now)

SO if any of this has do to with FAIR PLAY (get rid of it), cause sometimes I need to be with competition way over my head to help improve my game.

      
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