I would like a mod to explain why my post about 2+2 accepting advertising money from Lock was deleted.

IF there is a policy about discussing Lock and 2+2 advertising on the forums we should be aware, even if it is to not discuss the issue.

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its disappointing to hear this about lock but its not shocking, especially after that PayPal incident. IDK why anyone still plays there. I know its really soft, but its not worth anyones time imo.

Anyone else losing a little respect for guys, like The Grinder, that rep Lock Poker?

to my knowledge thats how it is, they emailed a few guys that asked about playthrough reqs and were replied

Hello,

Thank you for your reply, we understand your issue however please note we do not allow payouts derived from player transfers."

there was another thread with the full email, but can't find it atm

I think it was because they have this one http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55...2-2-a-1299361/

Here's the posts about the emails from Lock:

wtf is this for real?? no cashout whatsoever of you have received a player to player transfer of any proportion comparative to your bankroll?
Shane hurry the **** up and find some answers instead of saying that you'll find out for 5 days now. this is bull****

as I said a month ago lock will try to bring down the site and keep player funds

I think it is fairly clear that what ever they say, like "oh there are play through requirements". But since all accounts are reviewed on a case by case basis, alot of the players will recieve the email with this context even with play through/wagering reqs met.

"Hello,

Thank you for your reply, we understand your issue however please note we do not allow payouts derived from player transfers."

So Mccormick, since you requested a withdrawal on the 22nd I'm assuming you also received one that day as well? I'm just assuming you always have one pending like I do basically... That's at least good news that you got a withdrawal.

This is absolute joke. Makes me wanna just send this thread to the feds and let em shut the damn site down.

If you want a question answered by a mod, it would probably make more sense to PM a mod of the forum in question rather than posting it in the middle of a random thread hoping one will read it and know what you're taking about.

I can't answer your question without at least knowing what thread it was posted in. But as trb111 mentioned, we have a thread about that topic in the forum that it's best suited to - About The Forums.

When did u guys receive this email?? Right after u try and cash out?? My current cash out is in requested mode

I think they had their cashouts cancelled after having been pending for a while.

After they asked wtf was going on, Shane came up with the story about 'market manipulation' and playthrough requirements and told them that was the reason.

When they emailed Lock to get clarification on the playthrough requirements, Lock responded today that there are no playthroughs allowed and that transfers are not allowed to be cashed out at all.

This all happened over the course of the past week or so, but they got the emails from Lock today.

can't cash out if received p2p LOL makes sense when they can't cashout themselveseither... bunch of ****ing pigs ... lock $ will go down to .20c then they will buy it all up

I just discovered the NVG thread and found this post of yours, which isn't deleted; not sure if it's the one you meant:

This is brutal. Hope you guys somehow get your money off this joke site.

No they won't, if this is truly their policy I think its probably obvious what they're going to do...why waste even 20 cents of a dollar?

Curious wording here "we are going to be fine" would indicate that there is currently something bad going on (underfunded???) but there is some plan with a non zero chance of failure that will allow them to keep operating and pay all their customers.

Play thru requirements arent bad imo.
If he were to bet 50K and get a fold it counts as a 50k wager.
Extreme Example of course but its fairly easy to make the playthru wager bet of 1:1

Maybe I misread but I think what's being insinuated (whether true or not, I'm not purporting either way) is that if one received a transfer of $1 and has now accumalated $200k they are ineligible to withdraw even $1.

That's how it looks like to me, but i'm hoping for more info asap. It's quite literally the difference between "if that's the rule, Lock is going down in the near future 99.9% sure" imo and if they just increased the playthrough requirement then really not much is going on other than a change of rules, if they mean "xfer 1$, win 200k, then now u can cash out 199999$ and that 1$ xfered can't ever be cashed out anymore, then it's.. well, a very freaking weird new rule that makes no sense whatsoever still, but at least the sky isn't falling in that case.

Actually, I could see that...kinda...like a play through requirement for a bonus; let's face it, currently a 100% instantaneous bonus with a 1:1 (at least that's what's being quoted here in a year old TOS [yet another oddity I would say]) play through is better than the bonus/playthrough they offer for directly depositing, imho; kinda in a weird "Lock" sort of way makes sense, lol.

The 1:1 playthrough makes perfect sense to me, really. It's on the low side, but then again a transfer is a transfer, one could argue people would need no playthrough since a bank xfer or a Skrill xfer for example has no cost either and usually the poker player making use of this system is raking something every now and then at least. 1:1 makes 100% sure nobody can completely abuse it however, such as indeed funneling into other accounts for free, i mean, you're still forced to pay some rake then for the service they offer.

Higher or equal to the bonus would be ridiculous imo, they're 2 completely different systems. A deposit bonus is money they (Lock) are giving you (or at least a cut in rake). A transfer isn't Lock's money however, it's another person's money being sent, so yeah not sure how these can be compared.

That being said, if Lock were to increase the playthrough to something similar, there would be some crying i'm sure, but people would get over it if the rule was made clear to everyone in advance.

Shane hasn't posted since this first got reported. Have you talked to him on skype about it?

I'll quote parts that don't involve more sensitive info: Shane: "To be honest the problem was huge and we are still trying to get to the bottom of it,"

Shane: "Security have messed up the message to people like the 2+2 community which leaves me in an awful position but I guess thats why Im here."

What i understood from the conversation is that really big abuse took place and now to prevent anything further from happening they decided to stop all cashouts from transfers (possibly to investigate each person who transferred seperately? that's my input, i don't know)

Shane: "They have confirmed this morning that players will be able to cashout, how that exactly works Im still trying to find out."

So yeah that's a big relief.

thank god he was able to find time in the last 15 hours to chat with you.