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03-30-2013 , 02:15 AM
^ your welcome... @ Ty
03-30-2013 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
Yes, no worries, I just thought it could help clarify to the OP that running bad over 300 games means absolutely nothing.
Agreed
03-30-2013 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
Here's a variance simulator for a 4bb/100 winner in 100k hands. 25 trials.

(It only shows the best and the worst trial)





You can run bad for a very long time. And if you play long enough, you will, eventually.
this just proves his point since obviously the red line is from when the simulator hadnt withdrawn yet then the green is after many withdraws.
03-30-2013 , 05:51 AM
JJ rail me for a day and then you will get this nonsense out of your head. Its gonna happen on lock or any other site imo. Just gotta keep on playing through it
03-30-2013 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by hollisterb22
Wish i have a fold button
You must be playing on the winning poker network aka black chip or America's card room because their fold button disappears all the time due to ancient software
03-30-2013 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
@ jj,

It is real poker.

You just haven't played enough hands to realize it yet.

You'll still probably run worse than this one day if you play long enough.
Save your breath,Al though he seems to be a fairly competent play he is a "riggie"

Riggie= A person that feels that they are great when they are winning and thinks they're being cheated when they lose

Not to be confused with "rigtard"

Rigtard= a person that never wins because they lack the skill and or bankroll management to be successful at poker so the only rationale they can think of is that all sites are cheating them out of they're cheeseburger money and free roll chances at winning $10 bankrolls

Just to be clear,JJ is a "riggie" not a "rigtard"

PS.fold more rivers IMO
03-30-2013 , 02:51 PM
explain to me how they rigged your hands from a programming stand - point ? You are assuming that you are the only one cashing-out because aren't you eventually going to get into a pot where the other player also cashed out? Who do they pick than?(NOT YOU RIGHT) Do you understand its nearly impossible to 'rig' a 6 handed or 9 handed table. Please tell me how? You have no clue how to program ......you are a ****** , you can't expect to win every time. Do you understand the complexity of rigging the out comes of the hand? The client would probably be EXTREMELY slow if a certain players had 'rigged' out comes due to the extra- added program running or however it would be done.
03-30-2013 , 02:57 PM
For example you are in a 6- handed table 3 players are in a pot. The client would have to check which three players are now set to be 'rigged'. Again you are assuming no else cashes out so you are the only one rigged. Flaw 1. Next if a person is 'rigged' they would have to run some other program or function/code w/e. Now how many tables are currently up? like 600-700 i'd assume they would have to run that process OVER ALL THOSE TABLES LOLLLL you would experience some-lag time EVERY ****ING HAND ROFL THINK! THEY CANT EVEN HOLD UP TO LIKE 2000 PLAYERS IN A TOURNAMENT FOR THE LOCK 100 GTD YOU THINK THEY CAN DO THAT? PLEASE !
03-30-2013 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Theboss20
explain to me how they rigged your hands from a programming stand - point ? You are assuming that you are the only one cashing-out because aren't you eventually going to get into a pot where the other player also cashed out?
The WPRHS would have to figure that out pushing the usual RNG aside making the player who chased out most in the last.... 90 days lose the pot.

(WinningPlayerRiggedHandsSystem)
03-30-2013 , 03:35 PM
lmao yea right... also you need some pretty good programmers to do this and why would anyone in the world with a good cs degree work with lock joking.

Secondly people are really really greedy by nature lets not lie to ourselves. If someone were to rig a poker site it would be crazy obvious. You would probably get a playable hand and lose over and over again. Theres no point of giving you garbage to fold since they can just make you lose(greed).

Also lets say there was a WPRHS . The only way you would win is if you play another player HEADSUP that cashed out on the same day as you or before LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOO.

Last edited by Theboss20; 03-30-2013 at 03:41 PM. Reason: FOR LOLS
03-30-2013 , 03:44 PM
Only WPRHS I ever encounter is players cracking a hand when they should have already folded to the action preflop which makes the guy who happened to hit on the flop lose the pot.

Let's face it, plenty of players out there who don't have a clue on "drawing odds" which tend to go on "rigged tilt" every time they receive a beat or get called by a guy who should have folded but decides to call down for his 1,2,3 outer.

Here is a hand played on Lock at .25/.50 the other day.

A's on the BTN. MP raises to 1.50, two players call, I re-raise to $6, two fold and HJ calls. Flop comes 833. I cbet and get flat called. Turn is a blank, I put the player (who had about 15$ left) all-in and he shows 83o.

All I can say to that is - interesting call pre-flop
03-30-2013 , 03:51 PM
Why do I lose like 90% of the hands I play at the final table and then never even dream of winning with a percentage like that. Not even for a few days or so. The number of times I lose important pots in the late and final stages of tournaments outnumbers the times that I win by such a large ratio it's mind boggling. And that makes it absolutely impossible for me to ever believe that I'm engaged in a fair game of online poker. It's not even close how often I lose these pots compared to winning them. Just streaks of like 8 in a row of hands lost at the final table and then I'll win like 1 or 2 and then it's right back to the long streaks of losing again. This is the theme just over and over and over again. Somebody explain that...

I do...not...run...good...EVER!
03-30-2013 , 03:53 PM
There is no real explanation, because it's random. I guess that's the explanation: random.
03-30-2013 , 03:56 PM
It happens for the same reason a winning player loses over 100k hand sample:

Variance.

If you can't handle it, you should quit poker, because it happens to everyone and there's nothing you can do about it.
03-30-2013 , 03:59 PM
@jj - if you really believe that the site is rigged vs you then you shouldn't be playing on it cause it's -EV for you. Pretty simple.

The site would either be rigged for "everybody" or it isn't. It's really as simple as that. I used to have an ROI of 38% on 6 max SnG's which I managed to get trashed over the last month. Why? Cause I've done something to my SnG game that I need to fix.. badly. Apart from that I don't receive more or less beats than I have before and I play 3 sites including Lock.

It is the way it is. You run good, you run bad. The magic is to min your loss when you run bad and to max your profits when you run good.
03-30-2013 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jjwhite09
Why do I lose like 90% of the hands I play at the final table and then never even dream of winning with a percentage like that. Not even for a few days or so. The number of times I lose important pots in the late and final stages of tournaments outnumbers the times that I win by such a large ratio it's mind boggling. And that makes it absolutely impossible for me to ever believe that I'm engaged in a fair game of online poker. It's not even close how often I lose these pots compared to winning them. Just streaks of like 8 in a row of hands lost at the final table and then I'll win like 1 or 2 and then it's right back to the long streaks of losing again. This is the theme just over and over and over again. Somebody explain that...

I do...not...run...good...EVER!
Im pretty sure folding the river would put a monkey wrench in the Rigged RNG's plans.
Long story short
Spoiler:
Fold the river imo
03-30-2013 , 04:22 PM
+1.5
03-30-2013 , 04:37 PM
Since the Revolution BS is just never ending I thought I'd try Bovada again. Have a history of withdrawing there also. Been In 2 all in pots...1 was a flip. Other one in a crucial spot late in an mtt I get it in with AK vs KQ. I lose them both. Flip I had AK also and missed everything. Next I have the 70/30. Guess what...Queen on turn. JUST THE SAME BS ON EVERY SITE THAT I HAVE A HISTORY OF CASHING OUT CONSISTANTLY ON. THE BAD BEATS, COIN FLIP LOSES, AND JUST THE WORST LUCK IMAGINABLE IN EVERY CRITICAL SPOT JUST DOES...NOT...END...EVER! It was the same bs when I quit playing on Bovada and it is just picking up where it left off.

Nobody just runs bad their whole life. Somewhere in there is that good run of cards that I simply DON'T...GET...EVER!!!
03-30-2013 , 05:07 PM
Hmm maybe you should see a flop more often. Sounds to me as if most your action in these hands is pre-flop madness.
03-30-2013 , 05:13 PM
have u bet sports on bovada yet? do they rig the ncaa tourney games for withdrawers?
03-30-2013 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cheeseisgood
have u bet sports on bovada yet? do they rig the ncaa tourney games for withdrawers?
With all due respect please don't post in my threads anymore. Your post isn't helpful, it isn't funny, and it is absolutely pointless. The fact is, from the time I posted my last post to now there have already been several more terrible beats at all the most important spots. How am I the only one who just can't overlook this?
03-30-2013 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jjwhite09
With all due respect please don't post in my threads anymore. Your post isn't helpful, it isn't funny, and it is absolutely pointless. The fact is, from the time I posted my last post to now there have already been several more terrible beats at all the most important spots. How am I the only one who just can't overlook this?


Is this you OP?
03-30-2013 , 08:27 PM
seen quads now 3 times in the same tourney at the final 3 tables....

Completely random???...Guys get a clue here...

Not to mention lost all my all in flips, 3 out of 4 70/30's and a few other 2-1's in the most important spots.

??????
03-30-2013 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jjwhite09
seen quads now 3 times in the same tourney at the final 3 tables....

Completely random???...Guys get a clue here...
It's only rigged once you see quads 4 times at the final 4 tables.

Get a clue here..
03-30-2013 , 08:37 PM
How is this thread serious? OP sn on lock? maybe i'll watch u play sometimes.

      
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