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03-29-2013 , 10:07 AM
Stop reading after I saw OP was playing on lock.
What else do you expect to happen?
You are playing on LOCK!
03-29-2013 , 05:05 PM
Recent article on Pokerfuse...

"Payments owed to poker room AdamevePoker from its network partner, Revolution, are nearly five months past due, according to public statements made today by the site’s affiliate manager.

The issue first came to light when players on AdamevePoker began to experience delays in withdrawals.

Players served by the network’s main cashier have experienced significant delays in withdrawal processing, and the network is known for having the slowest processing times in the industry.

AdamevePoker, however, operates an independent cashier. Until recently, players have expected cashouts to be processed in 1-3 business days. But recently, this has ground to a halt.

Responding to public complaints on poker forum 2+2, the site’s affiliate manager claimed that the network is nearing five months past due in payments. The site’s investors have decided to implement a policy where future withdrawal requests will be “subject to receiving actual settlements transfers from the network.”

Network reconciliation is the process of a network balancing the books each month with its poker rooms. If a poker room has predominance of winning players, then it builds up a money owed from the network to cover the amounts won by its players. This monthly settlement also accounts for the rake generated by a skins’ players, tournament fees and any payments due to the network as part of its cut.

The network and its flagship skin, Lock Poker, have been scrambling to find a solution to its issues. Recent attempts to “right the ship” have included Lock segregating its high stakes tables from the rest of the network and the announcement that “Fair Play Technology” will be implemented network-wide to separate winning and experienced players from beginners."


Gee....I wonder if this has anything to do with why it is impossible for a withdrawing reg to win on a revolution skin that actually pays out fast...The Revolution network is 4-5 months behind in it's reconciliation payments. So you think they would actually let winning, withdrawing players actually continue to win??? Not a chance! That is why players like me who have a proven track record of withdrawals weekly and monthly have slim to no chance of getting good runs late in tourneys as of late. It's time to just look at the obvious. So you have been winning consistently in mtt's lately? Bet you play on Lock where you will only get .50 on the dollar. This is so obvious what is going on even a blind man could see it.

1) Player segregation
2) Fair Play Technology (GTFO)
3) Never ending terrible runs of cards for consistently withdrawing players
4) 90 day ROW payouts
5) 4-5 month behind on reconciliation payments
6) Shanes beat around the bush responses
7) No software update like was promised a year ago
8) lower guarantees in mtt's

WHAT DO YOU REALLY THINK ALL OF THIS IS POINTING TO???

The first ones who are going to get boned over all of this are (yes you guessed it) us players who are the ones who make a network like this at all possible. Just another shout out...Thanks Revolution!

I know exactly why I am not getting any help from the dealer at final 2 or final table...

This explains EXACTLY why winning withdrawing players such as myself (who play on sites that offer quick payouts) started having a terrible time on this network about a month and a half ago...
03-29-2013 , 05:13 PM
You keep saying you were cashing out weekly/monthly, this can't be possible correct?

I wish your graphs weren't posted itt but since they were...You do not have enough volume on Revolution to complain about any kind of losing/breakeven stretch. And if you are getting it in ahead EVERY time, sorry but you are doing something wrong.
03-29-2013 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JonathanFisk
You keep saying you were cashing out weekly/monthly, this can't be possible correct?

I wish your graphs weren't posted itt but since they were...You do not have enough volume on Revolution to complain about any kind of losing/breakeven stretch. And if you are getting it in ahead EVERY time, sorry but you are doing something wrong.
Mr Fisk...Hey I never said I got it in ahead every time. The point I'm trying to make is that I'm losing all of the "important" pots over and over. You know the ones that make the difference between cashing for double your buy-in or making an actual real cash. I'm losing like 90% of these pots late in tourney's and that's the problem. The bigger the pot, the more chance I will lose it. That's just simply how it has been period. I've lost somewhere in the ball park of the last 18 out of 20 all in hands I've played at the final table, nowhere close to even 40% of my flips. Get 3 outed over and over in that "important" hand. My 3 outers are only seen in early stages and absolutely never when they are desperately needed at final 2 tables.
Can't remember the last time I won 3 flips in a row but continuously lose 4 on a row or 5 in a row then win 1 then back to losing like 4 in a row...It's just the same bs daily now.

So really the purpose of this thread was just to see how many others were having these same problems.
03-29-2013 , 07:17 PM
Have you tried playing better?
Or folding more rivers?
03-29-2013 , 07:39 PM
Wow thanks Hank...Never thought of that. lol Always a pleasure to have your input
03-29-2013 , 08:02 PM
I do what I can
03-29-2013 , 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hankwhite69
Have you tried playing better?
Or folding more rivers?

Wish i have a fold button
03-29-2013 , 08:37 PM
aye hollister, have you ever played on seals?
03-29-2013 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sheep123
aye hollister, have you ever played on seals?

What is seals? lol <--noob
03-29-2013 , 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjwhite09
Mr Fisk...Hey I never said I got it in ahead every time. The point I'm trying to make is that I'm losing all of the "important" pots over and over. You know the ones that make the difference between cashing for double your buy-in or making an actual real cash. I'm losing like 90% of these pots late in tourney's and that's the problem. The bigger the pot, the more chance I will lose it. That's just simply how it has been period. I've lost somewhere in the ball park of the last 18 out of 20 all in hands I've played at the final table, nowhere close to even 40% of my flips. Get 3 outed over and over in that "important" hand. My 3 outers are only seen in early stages and absolutely never when they are desperately needed at final 2 tables.
Can't remember the last time I won 3 flips in a row but continuously lose 4 on a row or 5 in a row then win 1 then back to losing like 4 in a row...It's just the same bs daily now.

So really the purpose of this thread was just to see how many others were having these same problems.
It's called running bad.
03-29-2013 , 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hollisterb22
What is seals? lol <--noob
lmao.... sealswithclubs, someone came on their with the username hollister22b and said that this was her profile and then scammed someone

i guess they impersonated you
03-29-2013 , 10:58 PM
Oh no! really? i heard someone is on skype under my name as well and was begging for money! lol i never beg anyone. Im only playing on rev as upay4myshoes but now h8rscanh8. Other than that it wasn't me at all.
03-29-2013 , 11:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sheep123
lmao.... sealswithclubs, someone came on their with the username hollister22b and said that this was her profile and then scammed someone

i guess they impersonated you
Can u pm me with more details...so i can tell mods pls.
03-29-2013 , 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
It's called running bad.
Come on now Jim....No it's not....I think we know better than that. The bad run that doesn't ever end with a good run....Come on Jim....
03-29-2013 , 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hollisterb22
Can u pm me with more details...so i can tell mods pls.
done
03-30-2013 , 12:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjwhite09
Come on now Jim....No it's not....I think we know better than that. The bad run that doesn't ever end with a good run....Come on Jim....
Seriously, how many hands do you play in a tournament?

And how many are you complaining about, 20-30 big tourney hands lately?

I've run like total **** for months before, probably 80-100k hands.
03-30-2013 , 12:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
Seriously, how many hands do you play in a tournament?

And how many are you complaining about, 20-30 big tourney hands lately?

I've run like total **** for months before, probably 80-100k hands.
Then you're being duped too Jim. lol

Simply this...

Over and over and over again losing important flips, 70/30's, and even 80/20
in the late stages. The bigger the pot, the more often I lose it. Losing every pot at the final table. etc. That's not real poker!!!

Next, isn't there supposed to be the good variance along with the bad. Well that is simply non existent. I will lose like 10 flips in a row but never, and I mean never have I or will I win that many in a row.

Get it in w/ Ak at final 2 tables and A or K just no where to be found almost every time. Just a joke, a broken record, a network in trouble and withdrawing players getting boned.
03-30-2013 , 01:06 AM
flips are what they are.. flips. I'm sick of playing online recently and that's nothing to do with Lock cause I also play on PartyES and some other sites.

Reason I'm sick of it is that nobody ever seems to want to see a flop any more which results in crazy plays around the table and THAT is no poker.

Hand like MP raised 3BB, co 3bets, button 4bets, MP is all-in, CO and BTN call. Players show AK, 44, 98s... 4's take it down... and that's actually a harmless play lol.

I've gone back to play mainly live cash games now. You actually end up playing "poker".
03-30-2013 , 01:06 AM
@ jj,

It is real poker.

You just haven't played enough hands to realize it yet.

You'll still probably run worse than this one day if you play long enough.
03-30-2013 , 01:26 AM
@JJ

Why don't you post some of your late stages HH in here and we can evaluate them? Maybe we will see something you may not be.

Running bad for 100k hands st8 is prob not likely... Possible but not likely...
03-30-2013 , 01:47 AM
Here's a variance simulator for a 4bb/100 winner in 100k hands. 25 trials.

(It only shows the best and the worst trial)





You can run bad for a very long time. And if you play long enough, you will, eventually.

Last edited by JimAfternoon; 03-30-2013 at 01:52 AM.
03-30-2013 , 01:56 AM
^ I must be very fortunate then :-)

My previous post wasn't a stab at you. I did say it was possible.
03-30-2013 , 02:07 AM
Lol at all the serious replies
03-30-2013 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 4barrelledjoe
^ I must be very fortunate then :-)

My previous post wasn't a stab at you. I did say it was possible.
Yes, no worries, I just thought it could help clarify to the OP that running bad over 300 games means absolutely nothing.

      
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