First of all I'm not believing for 1 second that you are cashing out more than that each week. Calling BS until I get a screen name for Revolution. Next, get over yourself...You have responded to my posts twice now and both times you just jump right in and talk about how much you are withdrawing each month. Obviously Barking louder than biting.

So give me one example of a leak in my game that you have noticed??? I know I have leaks but that has nothing to do with me losing every important pot I've been in deep in mtt's for the last I don't know how long. You're just another angry grinder who thinks he is the Yoda of all poker knowledge and your prolly just a fish getting fed by this BS site. I know how to get my money in good.

I started playing mtt's on this site on December 13th. If you notice, by the middle of Feb. my profit was right at 4k and that is including me tilting off 1.1k playing $100 sit and go's. So really at that point I had profited over 5k playing mtts in only 2 months. Then you will see where the graph turns into a rainbow from all the BS fish feeding that has been going on. I know what's up and anytime you wanna meet heads up I'll show you

Screen name for Revolution???

I complained about my cashout taking so long. I went down 8 buy ins. EV adjusted says i should be down 3 buy ins. Those 3 were 2 coolers (like AA vs KK) and 1 flip (AK vs QQ)

Also weird is that I'm almost to the "very lucky" line in PT4 for straights and sets.

I felt like I couldn't win.

Can this thread be merged with the rigged landfill now?

LOL at a 5 buyin difference between even and results being proof. Put your helmet back on, kid.

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sorry, but it's the truth.

PokerStars rivered me with 2/3 outers like giving out candy. Just one of those extended bad luck runs that we all have. Shrug, I seen em b4. Hope u guys running bad start running good.

Level?

it's pretty obv that Lock has drones that they send into games to just win money from the regs so they can stay in business

Question would be "Who is testing the RNG since Lock took over Cake?"

man when I first read this thread I thought whatever.... but I've been steadily losing since the 1st of this month, and the past few days have been especially bad. I've cut down my playing by A LOT... just bad beats left and right.. I'll just show some examples below of the last few things I played.

so last night after losing to a lot of dumb****.. I decide to play 3 $15 hyper turbo sit n goes. 6 handed tables... in the first one I run 66 in QQ to get koed... second one I run 77 into 88 to get koed... third one Im chipleader with 3 left... guy goes all i call with 22.. hes got 88 he doubles.. very next hand, same guy, goes all in... i got 88 i call.. hes got 99... took third... played 40 hands between those 3.... 4 PP always dominated by an over pair.. where the *** are my coinflips...

then today 3k GTD $10RA.. I'm actually doing pretty well.. 25 left/15 paid... I'm like 5th in chips.... get KK... shorty goes all in... I go all in.. bigstack calls... with A5.... oh look AxxAx board comes out.

so I'm pissed... I use up my high roller ticket, since i saw late reg had 2 mins left... i get 9T diamonds first hand... I raise 1/2pot... ****ing 4 callers.. just callers.... k25 two diamonds... i bet at it.. like 600... pot is like 900... guy pushes 6k... another guy pushes 8k... I'm sitting there thinking... this is a good chance to triple up... but I decide against it, even tho I'm on super tilt... first all in shows K5, two pair... second guy shows AK.... and the turn comes T river T.... almost like lock is laughing at me..

Few hands later.. I get 77... two people call the 80.. I raise to 400... ****ing 400... two more callers, and the first two call as well... WTFFFFF... buts its alright since flop comes A27.. I bet at it... get two callers... turn makes it two diamonds out there... I bet again, big.... one caller.... third diamond comes out.. I just call this guys bet.... he shows ****ing T8 diamonds...

So I'm down to 2k.... i get QK a few hands later.... and again theres 3 people in for 160... plus the blinds.. so I push 2k.... guy on a 9k stack calls... so almost a quarter of his stack... with 8 ****ing 9.... guess what... 8xx89 board comes out...

I dont evn know what to think at this point but I'm so pissed... I sure as **** don't consider myself the greatest player on earth, but I'm also not the worst... I had a hell of a month last month on lock.... 10k in winnings.... but now since the 1st of this month.. nothing but **** after ****...

and the fact that it takes so long to withdraw is just another headache... I haven't been waiting nearly as long as some other people but my 3k request is still just 'requested' after a month and a half..

Honestly I was averaging 10-15 tournaments a day... so 70-105 a week... but I'm done with that... only Sundays, and only sats to the 100k/70k if I win a sat I'll play one, if not I'm done for the week.. no guarantee I'll ever get my money on this account, so no point in trying to build my account up...

I'm not saying the site is rigged... and no doubt I've gotten myself into some type of losing mentality where I just expect to lose which is no doubt affecting my play.

That reminds me I also played the $55+5 sat for 215 ticket... to try an win another high roller ticket. Think this was before the 3k GTD but anyway I buy in late... i forget how the action went but i was facing an all in, I had AQ... i thought it about for awhile... since I was in that 'I'm gonna lose' mentality, but i do end up calling.. he showed AJ board came JxxJx..

luckily I'm busy tomorrow, so I'll have a weeks worth of rest before I play next Sunday.

heh can't play much today but i still figured I'd play a 530 sat and save it for next week

was a $20 turbo.... we were down to 6 I was chipleader.. 3 got paid.. 1 ticket / 200 / 100.

I make a move with 88... instant push with A9 to my left.. i call.. 9 flops..

10 hands go by everyone is stealing, no is calling but they are folding and showing A5-AT... I push on the blinds and get instant called by A9 again.. had qk A flops... so now I'm short.

another 10-15 hands go buy no action on anyone else just steals/folds and another AT fold n show...

I get 55 I push.. instant ****ing call A6... 6 flops like wtf out in 6th place.

I make 3 moves at 6 handed and get played against every time.. but 25 hands of someone else raising/shoving and not one call against each other... with the occasional fold n show of A5 thru AT... the same **** they snap called/pushed against me.

I truly wish I could just get all my money off this site...

Anyway I'm done ranting, for at least a week, I won't be playing till next sunday

nope

Mods, time to move this entire discussion over to the rigtard thread!

^ This.

So where is your screen name? You chime in talking about how much money u are taking off of revolution like your #1 but u won't provide any proof? It's the same bs day in and day out on this site. worst hand winning over and over in huge pots. I challenge anyone to make about a withdrawal a week for about 4-6 weeks and then see how easy it is to win after that. They simply aren't going to let you withdrawal over and over on that site period.

I have 80/20's & 70/30's not hold up in crucial pots every session, just like EVERY other player that plays a decent volume. 8 handed to 6 handed last night at 11r FT, the all ins were 29-2(commented on by another player at table, can't confirm this was the exact number) which is hilarious but I would never think anything shady of it.

As for the argument to cashing out, swings can happen. So you are saying you were on a heater and able to cashout multiple times, then started running terrible. Maybe this is due to variance? To get a decent idea of your true roi, you would need to have played at least a few thousand games. And then understand you can still have 500+ game breakeven and losing streaks in there as well. We all wish poker was easy enough to profit every session

So you really think its possible that they can all of a sudden rig the RNG only after a cashout is made, only in certain spots in a tournament? That would mean that they would have to rig hands for people who havent made a cashout as well.

So anyone who hasnt ever cashed out here should be huge winners, bc they will be playing pots against people who have made withdrawals pretty frequently from Intertops ect. Fish who never withdraw should be the ones crushing bc they, according to your logic, are being gifted HUGE pots at crucial stages. This just simply isnt true.

Honestly think about how ridiculous your statements are, your either on a downswing, dont understand variance, tilting bc of your downswing or arent as good as you think.

Hi any other winning withdrawing mtt regs losing every important pot over and over on this network? I mean with all of the cash flow and revenue problems i keep hearing about i'm starting to wonder if i'm being cheated. 3 outers just hitting religously to knock me out of tourneys but my 3 outers are just nowhere to be found. Never a good run of cards like i have felt in the past anymore. And I know what they feel like, been playing for many years. just wondering if anyone else has been experiencing this. Take the variance and stick it where the sun don't shine b/c this aint variance. Anybody else notice this?

What you're describing is identical to what happened to me. Lock is clearly running a ponzi scheme and so they let new players win some when they first join and then rig it so they take it all back.

I never posted about this before because I knew what the reaction of all the cocky BS'rs and Lock shills on here would be. Mock the OP with their "variance", "conspiracy theory" "******", etc. comments. but I've monitored Lock for several months now, and I see the same thing happen over and over again.

A new player comes on, wins or cashes in several tourney's, keeps playing and then trends straight down like a he fell off a cliff. And Lock is all but sure that the new player won't quit because they had such a good start and then there is the several month delay in cashing out. It all but ensures that the player will get frustrated waiting, cancel their cashout request, play again, lose again, cancel the next cashout, play again, lose again. And so it goes and till Lock has all their initial money and maybe some more if the new player hasn't already given up on Lock by then.

Only about 5% of the players that were on this site a year ago are still here. Wonder why that is? Lock does one thing right....they are able to suck in new players to join and deposit just long enough to steal their money. Only a small minority of online players belong to or read Two Plus Two and thus they're easy marks.

That's why Lock wastes countless dollars signing "Pros" to represent their site.

With everything else that Lock does to it's players, ie: horror show cashout wait times, lying customer support, trashy software, etc,..it's not too much of a stretch to believe that what I and the OP have suggested isn't happening too.

No one believed UB or Full-Tilt could / would do what they did before the house came crashing down either.

All the doubters were met with the same condescending crap that happens here every time they post about the "unthinkable".

What i'm really saying is that I've lost about 17 out of 20 of the last time all my chips have been in at the final table. When I actually get heads up with someone and both of us get our chips in the middle no matter what the cards are and equities are...I lose period. And I can assure you that on this network I am getting in good most of the time. (i'm sure you can relate as I know you are a mtt reg urself. lol) Do you think that in a million years I would ever even come close to winning with a ratio like that keeping in mind that my money is in good most of the time. Absolutely not period.

I understand that mtt variance is sick but losing like 10 flips in a row is common but never in that same million years would I ever win that many in a row on this site period. The good variance is just non existant. I started mtt's on revolution in mid December and since then I have taken about 5k off of the site. Nothing huge but I was winning consistently but for over a month now just about every giant pot I get into I lose. If I counted the 10 biggest pots of everyday that I play I would say on average I lose like 8 of them. losing hand after hand at the final table. This was even going on before this insane losing streak. Inbetween nice wins was just countless bad beats at all of the critical times. Never seen 70/30's lose so often with 2 tables left in all my years of poker. But when I'm looking for my 3 outer with 12 players left just nowhere to be found...every time!

If your FTing MTTs what difference does it make to Lock/Rev. if you take first or second. Your winning money either way.

I think you just killed your argument, but to taek it a step further - honestly every MTT you play you get to the FT by out playing everyone and get your money in good 100% of the time? No chance. Im 100% certain youve gotten it in bad at earlier stages and won some of those pots on your way to a FT.

Lock is the worst of the worst. I totally agree they are a terrible company, mismanaged, and have 0 ethics. They continually prove this to be the truth. HOWEVER they can not rig hands for the entire network.

Your playing guys on different skins, some of which have their own cashier. Revoultion doesnt hit some sort of doom switch at a certain point in a tournament that makes any player from Lock who recently made a withdrawal all of a sudden pick up premium hands only to run into a player from another network with another premium but slightly worse hand to get all the chips in the middle but have the worst hand win. If they wanted to rig it they would just give the other player a better hand.

This just simply is true. I can clearly remember when I first signed up at lock poker and had not ever requested any withdrawal before. I ran insanely good late in mtts. Granted this was only for a few weeks because I quickly made a few cashouts. Yep those pre-withdrawal days were something special. I was making 2 final tables at the same time sometimes and just catching everything to hit my hands at the expense of the other players who had history of withdrawing. My graph was going straight up b/c simply know how to play tourneys. Countless hours on poker x factor. Around ten books. And tons and tons of hands. I'm not the best by any means, but I learned from watching some of the best players in the world so I know i'm not bad either.

This **** is simply a joke at revolution network. Anybody who has half a clue can see this on the regular. My graph was going straight up for months and now I cannot even show a $1-$200 profit over a months time playing fields this small. these are sit and go fields with some of the worst play anywhere. Guys like me who are trained extensively on mtt's should be pulling off thousand every month w/ absolutely no problems but this bull**** fake poker is getting in the way.

It doesn't matter if I make a final table. I'm talking about hitting the top 3...or even 5. Where the real money is.... I lose (and this is not an exaggeration) about 8 out of 10 times all my chips go in at the final table. Doesn't matter how the money gets in, I lose flip after flip, they hit the miracle 3 outers over and over, and my 3 outers are absolutely nowhere to be found. Simple as that. Always in the biggest of pots, always right before the real money, and always some bull**** period.

I've said it before...I can remember recently losing over 10 flips in a row at final table. Never in all my years of poker have I seen the good side of this variance and won 10 flips in a row at the final table. Not ever. And I never will on this rigged, bs, cheating software that is taking advantage of all us u.s. players. period

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Fairplay tech = manipulated software to screw people who cash out

Pool your hands chaps, lets take these thieves down

Sigh, JJ you can choose to believe what youd like. I play on Intertops, 200nl and up. Have cashed out multiple times and continue to have a very high WR.

Tops has their own cashier, but Lock still has to reconcile with the network at the end of the month. Lock is well behind on these payments so dont you think if the network was rigging hands they would do it in cash games as well?
Let Lock players win some more against guys from different skins so they dont have to reconcile with the network and instead get a check at the end of the month?

And again if they were rigging hands they wouldnt always make them bad beats. Also btw you never lost ten flips in a row at one final table. You would have had to have like 90 percent of the chips in play to start the table and then proceed to loose all the hands vs a different player each time.

No possible way to loose ten all in pots in a whole tournament and stay alive, let alone at one table.

So honestly your FOS.

o and LOL at this.

so how do u know u can beat the tourneys if all of your previous profits were from beating withdrawing players?