Although you didn't name names it was your response to Kahn's post as shown below that lead people to what seems an obvious conclusion. This is because you say "this was the rooms which you constantly proclaiming to be the best places to play complaining they couldn't afford the existing tournament schedule"

As the only room on Revolution that I have ever heard Kahn promote on 2+2 is Intertops I am sure you can see why someone would conclude you are talking about Intertops.

I was pleased when Lock first joined Cake/Revolution as the player base expanded to the point where enough games were running for my game type and stakes. I had been thinking of where to go. At this point it is worse than before you moved to Cake/Revo.

HR had 21 players in! 5k gtd 215bi 3 pays #YAWN

The only worth playing is 10r 3kgtd tbh. Hope they wont reduce it too 1kgtd next week!

Spot on, we do not and have not ever promoted another Revolution Gaming Network partner other than Intertops. We used to promote Cake, when it was the Cake Network. But we knew that beast, and I was a high stakes player there since 06/07.

The moment Lock announced they were "buying" the Cake Network, we pulled our deals and my personal bankroll. We knew what was coming, began speaking out about it, and I'll be damned if everything I've proclaimed for the last year isn't coming to fruition.



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Kahn

do you really wonder why?

when you moved to cake it was heavily featured that you were actually BUYING the network, i believe pokernews ran an article along with others.

This would give you more leeway to dictate terms, instead the network is now nothing resembling the sort. Why did you break a perfectly good network? The action now compared to 6 months ago is dead, time stop being clever with your proactive bull**** ideas and be reactive to the fact that cashout times is the singular reason lock stands a decent chance of being added to the pile of flops.

Do you really think that when online legislation worldwide is completed Lock will be able to compete with the other small rooms? You guys should be having a crisis meeting every single day to get payments sorted and polish your act. The website for instance, who manages this? Its outdated and needs a huge lift. The sponsored pro's (do they ever play anything apart from the sunday comps?), get rid of them all. Advertise your gambling more, Lock poker as a name is one of the reasons you have a ****ty ecosystem. Oh and the ecosystem is broken to fk, how comes the biggest loser at 1knl+ isnt segregated yet?

Ok rant over wegwerh5rehjtjyj

You could pay a few people from 2p2 to sortout your issues extremely fast shane, i realise you are the scapegoat for all of locks failings but i would start polishing that CV.

Cake states they sold "selected assets to Lock Poker" on May 7, 2012. They also go on to say, "allows Cake to focus efforts on its current European, South American and Asian business with another exciting announcement to soon follow."

Since then they have not made any other statements on their site. They didn't say they completely sold everything to Lock, they also didn't state that they sold a majority share of control to Lock.

According to a press release sent to PokerNews, Lock Poker will rebrand the Cake Network and launch a new network called Revolution Gaming on June 1, 2012. The new network will be aimed at "driving technology, marketing, player rewards and implementing a richer tournament schedule."

So it seems now is when they have implemented a new tournament schedule. Lock made it clear back then that this is what they intended to do.

Hey Shane, would you recommend your best friend to Lock?

The pokerroom Cake Poker was not involved in the deal you have mentioned here. It was only the network side of the business.

They also sold off their US players at this time to Juicy Stakes so they could concentrate on non-US business.


Yes.

Now a month ago that recommendation would have come with a warning that cashouts havent been at the speed they need to be, but as we start to turn the corner now I'd be more than happy to recommend Lock Poker to my friends. When you understand the big picture and what Lock management is working towards you dont get dragged down by the negativity. I have no doubt there are going to be a lot of people proven wrong in the coming months.

NO SHAME, SHANE!

You are a complete




You've been spouting the same crap for a year now and not only has NONE of what you said come true....in fact everything has got WORSE!




Post something like that "AFTER" you have some steady evidence that it is or will be happening.

You have zero credibilty.

There are literally no tournies worth playing except on Sunday now. $215 5k are you kidding me? The $12k daily HR was doing completely fine

How can we trust you if you would scam your best friend?

Thats just ridiculous logic.


Lots of people talk about the demise of Lock, how they think its going down. One guy even tried to set the line on Lock going under by August. Of course when I offered to take that bet he didnt want to talk about it anymore.


I know Lock will survive, I know things will get better, so when I talk I mean it and when I refer a friend to Lock I know that their money is safe.

WOW

You just can't be a real person.

A month ago? What about Sept, Oct, Dec of last year and Jan and Feb of this year?

You also clearly isinuated Intertops was the cause of the tourney slashes, as that's the only skin Kahn promotes. So either you just assumed he promoted other skins and were just spouting things you have no idea about or you are disgustingly deceiptful and tried to pass the blame on to Intertops to make Lock look better.

You're either deceptive or inept, either way, you are really bad for Lock and online poker in general.

How can you say this with a straight face when people like myself have been waiting 128 days or longer to get a check withdrawal? Isn't there anything that you or anyone one else can do for us? Don't you think that the least that lock could do for players who have been waiting this long is provide a realistic time frame when we will be getting our checks?

And also, just as an add on, you specifically said the same line about "things getting better in the coming months" on march 1, almost two months ago if not earlier. Not only have things not gotten better since then, but at least with check withdrawal, have gotten much worse. Now waiting over 4 months is standard practice.

Thanks for the clarification. I think a lot of people don't realize this.

More people should ask simple yes no answer questions to see which one can generate the longest answer from SLOP without actually using the word "yes" or "no." Perhaps they can make a tournament out of that, until a fictional small skin complains.

So i see Lock has their own tournament schedule i read. I'm confused at this.


Is lock and intertops sharing the same tournaments now or not anymore? I see intertops still has the daily 109 3k and 8k guarantee.


But lock poker i read has only the 162 2.5k guarantee and 109 2500 guarantee and the 215 5k high roller.


So does that mean no tournament on intertops i see now are on lock? Thus lock players play with lock players and intertops plays with intertops players only for MTT? And thus the only time lock players play in the same MTT as intertops is on Sunday?


If this is true, don't this mean the intertops schedule looks better than lock?


Also how come there is no more tournaments such as the high roller 215 12k guaranteed on intertops?


So does this mean if one has an intertops and lock account, you can only open one of them at a time even though that means one can play one set of tournametns only such as whether intertops schedule or lock?

Fake story, bro!

Do you not realize that Lock has already fallen? You've betrayed your customers by telling them one thing and doing another. It's **** business.

It's actually not faulty logic either considering that you could point them to a room that doesn't...I dunno...lie about withdrawal times? You're kinda allowing your buddy to get duped by thinking what the site says is true if you recommended him. Don't question my logic, you work for Lock. Lol

Can you give us any proof of how you know this? Nope

Have you provided an answer to anyones questions about FPT, and why Lock players get preferential treatment?

No, just the same its being tweaked and your not sure why or what is going on.

Have you provided an answer as to why Lock is cancelling many large withdrawals now, other than they manipulated the market (which isn't true)?

No, you've stated that Lock has done this bc of these people manipulating the market for their advantage. As many have proven to you one can not manipulate the market and the price of Lock funds are where they are solely in part of Locks irresponsible behavior, disregard for players funds and wellbeing.

Have you provided an actual answer as to why the tournament schedule has been slashed?

Again no. The answer you provided actually makes zero sense, and the intertops rep has made that clear. Trying to now say its other skins and not Intertops is complete crap since itops lock and juicy make up the overwhelming majority of the player pool.

Also claiming Lock is willing to spend the money on a "real tournament schedule" is comical. The extra tourneys they have added are pathetic.

So turning the corner here huh? You said a few months ago that things were drastically going to pick up with a brand new payment processing option that would go live in the early part of March. Well its now almost May and nothing happened there.

There are still loads of people waiting over 100 days for payment. And the same crap is being fed here. We know Jen basically tells you what you are to say here, and im sure she keeps you in the dark about what is the real deal at Lock. If you think your in the know im sorry but your not. Most PR's aren't, and for good reason.

Idk how you expect people to believe this and continue to support the joke that is Lock. These are just recent examples of things that never have gotten answered/answered falsely or poorly and or have just never happened.

I must say you are good at your job though in terms of sticking by the companys side, as naïve as it might be.

I'll admit. I checked out joespizza.eu.

Great insight from your posts Monteroy.

It was the way you responded to Khan's posts which seemed like you were pointing the finger at interops.

IMO, you've won the argument.

If Shane loses all the arguments, does this make anyone get paid quicker? If Shane wins every argument, does this make anyone get paid quicker?

If you owned Lock, would you take this forum down or keep it active? Of course you would try and clear the backlog of payments to players. This Lock Support forum isn't a PR forum, it's only a public bashing session day in and day out.

One side bashes Lock and rarely offers solutions, the other side defends and rarely offers solutions that will satisfy the other side.

How does any of this get players paid quicker?

Players get paid quicker if and when they realize that it is time to move from Lock to a different skin or network that can pay them in a timely manner, and frankly do not deceive their own players in the way that is unique to this room.

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The price of Lock money is 45 cents posted and falling ( I have been offered Lock money for 40 cents even at times, though with no Lock account it is an easy "no" to their "yes or no" request).

Once Lock hits 20-25 cents that will likely be the level where some investors will take a gamble that a cashout will happen in 3-6 months, so that is about the likely bottom Lock price until they eventually close shop, so at least Lock people can appreciate that eventually it will not get much worse in terms of the value of their Lock money, and perhaps they will create some fun new Lock only sit and gos to use it in at that time.

I agree with you.

One thing I don't understand is your continued desire to warn everyone about Lock Poker after you've made it clear that you don't have a Lock account. Perhaps we're a lot alike in the fact that we've become addicted to finding out what is going to happen next? We must be bored.

I back American players who play Poker. I did it on Merge on a different skin and Lock ruined that network (the skype spam I would receive from "Lock Pros" with all sorts of creative deals was never ending). Same is happening on this network, and while I personally do not care when Lock fails and SLOP is working at Burger King, it is frustrating that their sheer bad business (and how they lie to the industry) has these ripple effects on healthier segments of the industry.