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Lock pulled bunch of tournaments? Lock pulled bunch of tournaments?

04-19-2013 , 10:51 PM
LOCK BARELY HOLDING ON!!!

Clearly death by a thousand cuts....but in Lock's case it's only going to be a dozen or so cuts before they are dead.

I joined Lock last August...although I haven't played here in months.

I check in here occasionally just to see how things are "progressing", or more accurately, "regressing".

Everything that I and many others predicted would happen to this site back then has come to pass, save one thing. They are still hanging on by the skin of their teeth.

But you would be a fool to believe that total shut down is not right around the corner.


On every measure this site is worse than they were last August.

Cash out times are worse.

Customer service is about the same, because it was non-existent back then, and nothing has changed.

Introduction of "Fairplay" has drastically decreased the available games.

I warned months ago that their guaranteed tourneys were not sustainable but was met with mocking responses.

This is the latest clear sign that things are bad....real bad.

Looks like some Skrill payments were made the last couple days.
Count your blessings...but don't be like the battered wife and come back again...if you do it'll happen all over again, but next time it'll be worse.

What could be worse than this site currently. One thing....., no site at all and your money gone.

Good luck all
04-19-2013 , 11:09 PM
winiwjndxokw sxo i wana play the god damn high roller!!!
04-19-2013 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hollisterb22
Seriously?????
Yup.....
04-20-2013 , 02:51 AM
Im really liking this new schedule....never played the high roller before but def gonna play it now since it will be lucky to have 2 tables...llove all these super turbos as well ...3 months from now if lock is still around the schedule will be $109 500 gtd $215 hr 750 gtd. And the best part about that schedule is the $1.50 rebuy at 8:25 will prob be 3k gtd...such a joke lock
04-20-2013 , 03:07 AM
I probably shoidn post in this thread, since i only play very small buy in tourneys, BUT It seems as if theres way too many turbo tourneys and not as many regular structured ones, at lower levels. buy ins now.. A lot of us dont like having to play mostly turbo ones, and wonder why they got rid of more reg blind level ones...... ALSO have been noticing, that at the micro stakes PLO hi lo cash games, which i have always enjoyed,, there are never any people anymore be lucky to get one ta ble with 6 or 8 poeple, SOME of the time and thats it.... this makes it very difficult to play often now, too.....
04-20-2013 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
The network has made some sweeping changes to the tournament schedule to reduce overlays for the smaller partners.

To combat this we are working on a Lock exclusive schedule to get more tournaments for our players.

I will have the details on the new tournaments shortly just waiting for the full details to come through.
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Interpreted as:

We are trying yet again to force players to play on Lock where they can't cash out in a reasonable amount of time or for less than half price.

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Kahn
Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustshane
Actually this was the rooms which you constantly proclaiming to be the best places to play complaining they couldn't afford to support the existing tournament schedule causing the network to immediately slash tournaments.

I'm posting this in the Intertops thread. You know, that skin on your network that is actually solvent. That 30 year old sportsbook/casino that you just claimed couldn't afford to support the measly few grand overlays on the tournaments.


Here is my post of your statement/response for Intertops to see/quote/comment on come Monday.


Here is Intertops support thread where we can all have a good laugh when they respond to this on Monday.


I already know what their response is (hint: there was hysterical laughter on the other end of the line). But every else will see on Monday when they officially go back to work.


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Kahn
04-20-2013 , 09:30 AM
GL with Lock only tournaments......most people with half a brain have moved over to better skins(Intertops).....I'm trying to understand Lock's business plan here but it isn't adding up. You incorporate Fair Play Technology as a short term money grab with terrible long term implications - fine, no more cash games on Revolution for an income. Now you eliminate the majority of an already weak mid-HSMTT schedule - well now playing MTTs on the site is worthless....I heard rumors an actual monkey was running this site but now I'm truly believing it.
04-20-2013 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
I'm posting this in the Intertops thread. You know, that skin on your network that is actually solvent. That 30 year old sportsbook/casino that you just claimed couldn't afford to support the measly few grand overlays on the tournaments.


Here is my post of your statement/response for Intertops to see/quote/comment on come Monday.


Here is Intertops support thread where we can all have a good laugh when they respond to this on Monday.


I already know what their response is (hint: there was hysterical laughter on the other end of the line). But every else will see on Monday when they officially go back to work.


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Kahn
Their sportsbook is no doubt in great shape, but their poker room is tiny and in no reflection of the size of their sportsbook.

And as we have seen time and time again in the industry successful sportsbooks dont like spending money on their poker products because it takes away from their sports revenue.

Just because they have a successful sportsbook doesn't mean they want to spend money on poker.
04-20-2013 , 05:16 PM
whatever
04-20-2013 , 05:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustshane
Their sportsbook is no doubt in great shape, but their poker room is tiny and in no reflection of the size of their sportsbook.

And as we have seen time and time again in the industry successful sportsbooks dont like spending money on their poker products because it takes away from their sports revenue.

Just because they have a successful sportsbook doesn't mean they want to spend money on poker.
please stop with the smoke and mirrors crap. Its insulting.
04-20-2013 , 06:29 PM
Wasn't there a group back in the 1930's that blamed others for their own problems too?
04-20-2013 , 10:38 PM
Whoever is making the tournament cuts and inserting new ones has absolutely NO basic understanding of how their own tournaments make them money. Did they simply cut a few tournaments based on a few recent outcome results? Then LOWER your guarantees for the time being. You're inserting SuperTurbos to reduce the odds of someone continually winning, but still wanting to play higher stakes and feeling forced to play them. This isn't good business.

Oh and you cut my damn 9pm $5.50 SH rebuy? If you have the 5.50 SH rebuy, the $10+1 H/L rebuy, and the $22 H/L all at 9pm, I'll be playing several nights a week. You take one of them out, and suddenly it effects my real desire to play as often. Was THAT factored into the decision to cut tournaments? Did you even look at cross-tournament entries like that? I really like multi-tabling tournaments, it's very rare that you'll ever see me playing less than 2 at a time, as I'm sure goes for many of your players. If it was up to me, I'd be playing 6-8 tournaments at a time, but of the ones I WANT to play, not the ones I'm being forced to play. Decrease the guarantees for now and if you increase the amount of tournaments per time slot you'll be fine - it'll consist of a lot of same-player entrants in multiple tournaments. When you only offer every "buy-in demographic" only 2-3 options every hour, then that's all you'll be getting out of them. Get the most out of your players and present them with multiples of the same tournament. For example, Fulltilt always had the Daily Double, which was essentially 2 of the same damn tournament. People loved to play them because a) you could multi-table a good format and b) you could get rewarded for cashing both in the same day, etc. You need IDEAS, things to draw players in. Clearly whoever is making the decisions doesn't play much themselves and should bring in someone with some profitable ideas. It isn't hard, just care about your products and your customers. Oh wait.. xD
04-21-2013 , 12:15 AM
SHANE!!! Y U ****IN WIT MY CHETTAR?!!?!?! I want that 10.00 4k... i want that 20.00 2500 late night...
not just 4 me shane... but all my closest road dogs too! what about they chettar shane?!?!?!

Last edited by inglorious1; 04-21-2013 at 12:26 AM.
04-21-2013 , 12:58 AM
^^ lol come again?
04-21-2013 , 01:17 AM
Always good to see skin v. skin squabbling in a public forum. Definitely a sign of a healthy network.
04-21-2013 , 01:23 AM
damn no 20.00 8k on sunday's either? me and my kinfolk always made long runs in that tourney. who knows maybe it's a bless in da sky?
04-21-2013 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by boneralert
Always good to see skin v. skin squabbling in a public forum. Definitely a sign of a healthy network.
^
04-21-2013 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Just because they have a successful sportsbook doesn't mean they want to spend money on poker.
That might be right, but it is a sign that a) The company is based on solid foundations and making solid business decisions and b) They have the money to play their poker players, should their players request it.

I think that makes them a better choice than Lock who may well want to spend more money on poker, but don't have the ability/inclination/propensity to actually pay players.
04-21-2013 , 07:42 AM
I could have made ~ 10 cashouts on Intertops in the time it has taken Lock to verify my WU. No sender info/MTCN...just verify.

An idea for your "Lock Only" tournaments....maybe call them "Lock Employee & Bot freerolls" b/c thats the only entrants I'd imagine you guys get.
04-21-2013 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by inglorious1
damn no 20.00 8k on sunday's either? me and my kinfolk always made long runs in that tourney. who knows maybe it's a bless in da sky?
The $22 8k is there...

At least they didn't mess with Sunday it seems.... they still have the 10k 162, 20k 215, ec


P.S. The late night 75 rebuy stays which sometimes almost doesn't go off and oft has overlay, but you scrap the 5 rebuy 6max??? Wtf everyone loved that tourny!!!
04-21-2013 , 11:43 AM
Atleast we got the sunday schedule. last night these we showing as regular tournies.
04-21-2013 , 04:31 PM
nice SNG sched
04-21-2013 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TomoDaK
The $22 8k is there...

At least they didn't mess with Sunday it seems.... they still have the 10k 162, 20k 215, ec


P.S. The late night 75 rebuy stays which sometimes almost doesn't go off and oft has overlay, but you scrap the 5 rebuy 6max??? Wtf everyone loved that tourny!!!
That's what I'm saying, who didn't like the shorthanded 5.50 rebuy @ 9pmET. How can you scratch that
04-22-2013 , 03:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustshane
The network has made some sweeping changes to the tournament schedule to reduce overlays for the smaller partners.

To combat this we are working on a Lock exclusive schedule to get more tournaments for our players.

I will have the details on the new tournaments shortly just waiting for the full details to come through.
Hi Shane

Who are these smaller partners you are talking about? Wouldn't it be better to just exclude the partners that cannot afford the overlays?



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The Intertops Poker Team

      
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