It confuses me, why would Lock want this forum to keep going? It is simply bad image for their company, wouldn't they want to shut this down if they were rogue? The fact that they are still paying for the forum shows some good faith from, at least, the support team.

They are not paying for this forum, 2+2 refused to allow them to advertise on the site anymore.

2+2 has agreed to allow this forum to stay open for the benefit of the players, and Shane is allowed to help them in a support role only.

Lock always had the option to ask for the forum to be closed, though. The forum gives a lot of bad publicity to the company. The company has chosen to accept that bad publicity in favour of the players. If the company were operating in bad faith, the best move would be to close this forum and ignore the player's demands, right? So either they are operating in good faith or they are going rogue and just don't care about their bad publicity since new players are still being signed.
This has been so far, my only reason to suspect Lock hasn't gone rogue.
Most likely, since they can measure the amount of new players that come in from twoplustwo, but can't measure the amount of players that are deterred by the copious amount of negative threads, they think that this forum gives them good publicity (a la "any publicity is good publicity")

Either way, they are a dishonest irresponsible company.

Actually, I think this forum contains the bad publicity and negativity.

If this forum didn't exist, there would be tons of threads all over 2+2 and the zoo, and all over the internet, and they would probably get more bad publicity for it overall.

I think they know they'd have lost a lot of players too if they would've shut down the forum. It just looks super bad.

This forum keeps all the bad PR in one place.

It does but it doesn't keep google and co out. Much better that
way... for the players

If lock poker asked for this forum to be closed, I don't think 2+2 have to oblige? Or it will just change thread name to like "unofficial lock poker support forum" or something along those lines.. I wouldn't discount that lock isnt a rogue company by any means.

What do you mean in relation to the rest of your reply? Are you saying if they didn't have an official forum, you wouldn't think that the information contained in the forum is more or less valid?

Who told you this?

Well,they can always ask. Did they?

I'm not really sure what you mean here? Finding it hard to interpret the double negative :s

Overall it was in response to OP's statement with regard to Lock choosing to close down this forum due to the 'anti-lock' threads and posts. I wouldn't think they have a choice in the matter? The information contained wouldn't be anymore or less reliable (I think). Based on other unoffical forums the information some people can offer from the 2+2 community is just as good as if they had an official rep anyway. This is probably the main difference if Lock chose to abandon 2+2 all together, there just wouldn't be a 'Lock Rep' anymore...

There being a "Lock Poker" forum, incentivates threads and discussion about Lock. It also means its easier to find and search for. Since all discussion is going to be negative, that means more people find more threads about how lock is being terrible.

They need to lock this forum, keep it in the public domain and just move four threads to the Internet Poker forum - one for the WU, one for the checks, one for the ROW payouts and maybe one for Lock support (for all other issues).

Why don't you worry about doing a hard hitting interview with Jen Larson about all the wonderful progress that was to be made by June. STFU

What's the problem? Isn't it 2+2's choice to keep this thread available anyway?

Just when I thought this guy couldn't get any more terrible...

"They" don't need to do anything but I understand that "you" would like to see that happen. C'mon Costigan.. wtf...

If your Lock friends would like to see fewer threads, they might consider just paying their players. If they can.

oh you'd love that wouldn't you, you utter POS waste of oxygen

So does this mean you just meant that they could ask? Because it sounded like you knew of some option they had to close it down whenever they wanted to.

I haven't heard about it if they did.

Why?

These special forums were designed to be moderated and this one is not. Too much riffraff, uncivilized posts, trolling, etc...

Can understand the anger from real customers but much of the negativity in this forum along with the personal attacks comes from those who admittedly do not play at Lock.

Makes it difficult to find real information.

Just an observation on my part.

This forum is moderated, just not the way you would like. Maybe if you were less of a slime you'd get attacked less and someone might care.

Are there any other poker sites in 2+2 who have dedicated threads by payment type? What a mess when payouts are changed from WU to checks, or checks to WU.

Your idea is great if you wish to fence in discussion, debate, and sharing.

Chris, how does a site that was one of the most popular among American players, fall so far down so fast? You know, all the gifts Lock gives out, its amazing players leave.

Chris, it's easier to get factual information about Lock from this 2p2 forum than it is from your news site.

Granted, you are an affiliate site, but that alone should be reason that this forum never dies.

The forums aren't designed to be moderated, they are designed to be advertisements. On that basis, you might argue that the forum should be closed.

However, I'm not aware of a current advertiser that went from decent cashouts to 120 day waits for ROW players, 6+ month waits for some USA players, found themselves in the middle of some major lies, but still had plenty of struggling affiliate media promoting them, with 2p2 being the source for a vast majority of the real information coming out.

What I'm saying, is that this is an unprecedented situation for twoplustwo, and given that this forum contains the most evidence and facts of the problems on Lock poker, it makes no real sense to close it down.

Sure, there are crazies running rampant, but do you expect anything less given the way Lock is run? When crazy things happen, people involved or near the scene often exaggerate or pump up irrelevant angles, but that shouldn't cause you to dismiss the actual story... and that story is covered very well in this forum.

I know you take money from them, some it's gotta be difficult to admit anything other than "yes, there are some unfortunate things, and they can improve," but most of us here know the reality, we're not trolling, this forum is very helpful to the naive people that you think "don't care if Lock doesn't pay." Yes, I know, everyone is just a customer who will deposit $300, it will be lost, and Lock can hopefully climb out of their hole, paying you a % of that $300 in the process.