www.ciga.an

"CIGA is dedicated to the industry of internet and online gaming in Curacao, and all member companies agree to abide by a code of conduct that ensures compliance with all licensing requirements, and also general principles of good business."

"The membership is strong and CIGA is proud to be proactively engaged in direct communication with the government of the island and the territory of the Netherlands Antilles in order to ensure our high standards are maintained."

Code of Conduct

3. Financial: All CIGA members will ensure that there is adequate financing available to pay all current obligations and that working capital is adequate to finance ongoing operations. CIGA members will pay winnings and account balances promptly on demand.


-> this sounds good...

Lock itself is not. Their gaming license is issued by Cyberluck who is a member of the CIGA. However their requirements are a joke and it "might" just be a Lock / JDB shell.

http://www.curacao-egaming.com/
Like the missing image on their homepage

http://validate.cyberluck.com/valida...b-619f0a00002a

Edit:
CIGA Contact Page:

We should demand that Lock Poker(Cipaco N.V) apply for an membership at CIGA.

Would it make a difference if they were?

If Lock Poker confirm to the CIGA Membership Code of Conduct...

CIGA Membership Code of Conduct

1. Regulatory Compliance: All CIGA members will abide by the law and regulations of the jurisdiction of the Netherlands Antilles. Each CIGA member issued a bona fide gaming license from the Netherlands Antilles shall provide evidence of that license and will be presumed to be operating under the authority and within the scope of that license.

2. Consumer Privacy and Data Protection: CIGA members will design and operate their services to afford customers privacy and confidentiality and will post their confidentiality practices and procedures. Each CIGA member will institute controls to detect and eliminate fraud and to protect data and the system from internal and external breaches.

3. Financial: All CIGA members will ensure that there is adequate financing available to pay all current obligations and that working capital is adequate to finance ongoing operations. CIGA members will pay winnings and account balances promptly on demand.

4. Banking and Transaction Processing: CIGA members will conduct their banking and financial affairs in accordance with generally accepted standards of internationally recognized banking institutions. Members will follow and adhere to all jurisdictional laws pertaining to transaction reporting.

5. Dispute Resolution and Audit Trails: In order to provide prompt and efficient dispute resolution each CIGA member will retain detailed transaction records which will be archived, accessible and auditable by the Curacao Gaming Commission.

6. Accountability: To enhance customer confidence in gaming system integrity, CIGA members making their service available in Curacao voluntarily agree to make their systems, algorithms and practices available for inspection and review by any legitimate gaming commission or governmental authority or to any independent testing authority recognized by the CIGA, in accordance with generally accepted methods for protecting proprietary information.

7. Limiting Accessibility by Minors: CIGA members will institute adequate controls to prohibit minors from accessing their gaming systems. The controls will require customers to affirm that they are of lawful age in their jurisdiction, and the CIGA member shall institute reasonable measures to corroborate this information.

8. Control of Compulsive Gambling: CIGA members will implement adequate procedures to identify and curtail compulsive gambling, the small percentage of which players develop problems attributed to gambling activities, problems that can severely affect those individuals and their families. The procedures instituted shall include posted loss limits, and provision of referral and direct access to help and counseling organizations.

...I think it´ll be much more easier to go to the Court in Curacao and demand our rights.

Yeah just posted this here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...l#post38456330

Cipaco NV is not correct the domains are owned by JDB Services.

Like all domains and other company info it always goes back to JDB - locks primary payment processor. City shows again as "Willemstad" (Curacao) but on Cipaco the country shows Netherlands, JDB Cyprus, Lock Cyprus but "Willemstad" is used as town across all domains and +33 is France.

So all the infos are wrong and mixed up (of course) and clearly in violation of the CIGA code of conduct and Cyberluck's terms about IP domain info and other records being required to be "always up to date".

Edit:
Cipaco NV
http://prntscr.com/14e8ji

License:
http://prntscr.com/14e8pt

BIG LOL

This licence means nothing.

Cipaco N.V. is correct. The contract is between you and Cipaco N.V., not with the owner of the domains.

-> see http://lockpoker.eu/support/terms/

"These terms and conditions constitute a legally binding agreement ("Agreement") between (a) you, the end user, and (b) Cipaco N.V., a company operating as "Lock Poker" under license 1668/JAZ issued by the Government of Curaçao , and each of its officers, directors, agents, employees, consultants, suppliers, vendors and affiliates (collectively "Company/we/us/our")."

It's still not correct as that domain is parked and owned by JDB Services NV

I dont understand you. I make a contract with the registered(?) company Cipaco N.V.. Is Cipaco N.V. a domain or is Cipaco N.V. the name of a registered company?

Domains are ending with dot... or not? Is N.V. a domain ending?

N.V. = public limited liability COMPANY(not domain)

As you pointed out correctly NV is basically an LTD (which should be interesting IF Lock ever decides to announce they are broke.. IF they are).

Anyway...

Cipaco = http://cipaco.com/ so you playing on a poker site that apparently doesn't have a website which is owned by http://jdbservicesnv.com/ which also owns the domain lockpoker.com as shown in the licence but operates under lockpoker.eu to avoid domain seizure by the DoJ.

Hence the license should show lockpoker.eu as top level domain owned by JDB Services.

Something along those lines anyway...

have a read through this topic:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...risis-1327070/

@72 So what do you think? Is Lock Poker licensed to do business in the USA or ROW? (I'm being a bit facetious about USA, but ROW seriously).

I made a contract with the company Cipaco N.V. and not with the domain cipaco = http://cipaco.com/

Despite from this point Lock Poker = Cipaco N.V. is using the domain lockpoker.eu

My business partner is Cipaco N.V. and not a domain and not JDB Services.
If you have trouble with Lock Poker = Cipaco N.V. you can not go to the Court in Willemstad and say: "Hey, I have a contract with Cipaco N.V. but JDB Services owns the domain cipaco.com, so please make court action vs JDB Services."

If Lock decides to announce they are broke, the main question is did the management criminal things, e.g. misuse of players founds. Then they are as well private liable...

Another important question for now is are they allowed by the law of Curacao to use player funds for business operations OR have player founds to be stored segregated?

@surprised forgive me, but I don't understand what you posted or what you're trying to say? sorry.

License is worthless. If anything it's a sign that your funds are not safe. Not sure what it is they actually do. All my emails to CIGA have gone unanswered.

You are 100% correct.

Wondering?

Lock Poker = Cipaco N.V. has no CIGA membership, thats why I made the proposal "We should demand that Lock Poker(Cipaco N.V) apply for an membership at CIGA."

@surprised CIGA is worthless.

Additionally, Lock Poker doesn't have a valid licence to accept players anywhere in the world as far as I see. I could be wrong.

Believe it or not, Curacao has a law! If Lock Poker = Cipaco N.V. is breaking the law in Curacao, e.g. misuse of player funds or not paying out the money fast enough, you can go to the court. You dont need the gaming license/gaming licence agencies to take legal action vs Lock Poker...

Ahh...its worthless when Lock Poker openly confirm to the CIGA Membership Code of Conduct.

And what Shane is writing here in the Forum is absolutely worthful, thats why you want answers from Shane. Shane please can you, Shane please here, Shane please there...

I'm not against you and I don't think Curacao is lawless.

I don't think anything would happen if a person contacted Curacao's government or the company that gives out licencing and filed a lawsuit against them. I wouldn't even be able to venture a guess as to how a person could do this.

Probably the main reason why Lock Poker displays the licence, because they know there is no recourse. It's simply there to make people think that they are legit.

1) ROW players who play legal checkout thru a lawyer in Curacao or even in Netherlands how long Lock Poker are allowed by law of Curacao to keep your money untill they must give it to you after you have requested a withdrawal.

-> If Lock is breaking the law of Curacao how they handle their withdrawals, hire a lawyer to take legal action at court in Willemstad.

2) Hire a lawyer in Curacao or even in Netherlands to check out if Lock Poker are allowed by the law of Curacao to use player founds for business or if they have to segregate it.

-> Players, especially US players loose alot of money when they sell their Lock money for 0.35 e.g., so I think it makes alot of sense to collect some money(Bitcoins) to hire a lawyer to checkout 1) and 2)

I have no doubt that they are legit in Curacao.

Sorry @surprised I'm not being disrespectful, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

@DonSwanLeon

If you try to tell me what you dont understand, I´ll try to explain you...