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07-03-2013 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
IHasTehNutz, do you seriously get off at night dreaming that Lock Poker will shut down and all these people will get screwed? I think you do.

It is amazing how you troll posts even when sunsibar is asking a serious question regarding whether WSOPE buyins will be will be expedited their cash, which they should be.

Don't you have a chart or something you need to post or are you too "jovial tonight" that people are waiting 4 months and up to get paid because of processing issues? Here's a novel idea, stroll over to the Merge forum and see that they too are having similar 3 month issues with check processing.

I know you nearly had a stroke when I posted that 9 + 1 more got paid by WU over the weekend, but get over it!!!! God forbid you have to figure out who these people are to subtract from monies owed on those pathetic charts of yours.

Here's a news flash: Half those people that IM'd you won't even tell you when they have been paid by Lock.

Fortunately 2+2 has some decent posters that will let the community know when they've been paid, most of whom were smart enough not to PM you.
Can someone run this through babelfish and translate from shillspeak to shanespeak to finally english?
07-03-2013 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsibar
Will there be an updated leaderboard connected to the leaderboard prizes this month?

Will the WSOPE Buyin - $5,000 value winners get an expedited cash out?
keep up the good work!
07-03-2013 , 06:39 PM
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Costigan, what is your honest view of Lock poker?
Stabilizing as new processors are reviewed and brought on board.
07-03-2013 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
Stabilizing as new processors are reviewed and brought on board.
If they have the money, why aren't they paying out Skrill / Neteller / Ecocard?

You mentioned Merge having processor issues too, but I've never experienced a longer wait than 7 days using the above mentioned methods.
07-03-2013 , 07:57 PM
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If they have the money, why aren't they paying out Skrill / Neteller / Ecocard?

You mentioned Merge having processor issues too, but I've never experienced a longer wait than 7 days using the above mentioned methods.
ancelotti4, I wish I knew the answer. I'm not defending the ROW payment situation as I don't quite understand it myself. It seems they are averaging around 2 months for some.

I do know on the sportsbook side of things some of the bigger companies segregated ROW from US (i.e. ROW players cannot play on Bookmaker.eu, they were moved to BetCRIS, ROW players on Sportsbook.com play on a different site, even Cake segregates with Juicy).

Maybe because Lock does not segregate, this affects processing across the board. I believe Shane alluded to this previously.
07-03-2013 , 08:19 PM
If Lock has access to their player purse, the process is not more involved than them just wiring money to the ewallet and pay out. If they don't have access to it, well, then reviewing and bringing new processors on board wont help.
07-06-2013 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
ancelotti4, I wish I knew the answer. I'm not defending the ROW payment situation as I don't quite understand it myself. It seems they are averaging around 2 months for some.
120 days and counting for some. Just "a little" over two months.
07-06-2013 , 01:30 PM
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120 days and counting for some. Just "a little" over two months.
Hammer just got paid under one month. You are the "some" I am referring to. To your credit at least you posted your payout.
07-06-2013 , 01:47 PM
noob question... why does Lock have 3 kinds of tables: Regular, Nexus and Happy Hour? Do you have to pay extra rake on the latter two? Seems kind of ******ed to split up the player pool.
07-06-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
Stabilizing as new processors are reviewed and brought on board.
Stabilizing would indicate that things were getting worse and now they're leveling off. Payouts are taking longer than ever (I'm at 60 days and it isn't past "requested" yet) and the value of Lock $ in the marketplace has been in a freefall and appears that if it does stabilize it will be somewhere around .2 or less.

With the current payout times, for a US player, it's possible to withdraw either 5400 or 7200/year depending on if your payouts average 3 or 4 months. Lock tried to appeal to the grinders out there but if you can't make enough to survive off of poker then the grinders won't play there. I don't see how anyone can have a positive view of Lock poker based on the events over the last 4 months or so.
07-06-2013 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutant
noob question... why does Lock have 3 kinds of tables: Regular, Nexus and Happy Hour? Do you have to pay extra rake on the latter two? Seems kind of ******ed to split up the player pool.
Nexus tables are promotional tables. Go to lockpoker.eu and look at promotions you rake x dollars you get a prize, so on and so on. This is lock only players. I'm not sure what the happy hour is about, but the other two you can play against people on other revolution skins.
07-06-2013 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
Hammer just got paid under one month. You are the "some" I am referring to. To your credit at least you posted your payout.
Chris, seriously, what does <$500 cashouts matter if they aren't able to clear $10k cashouts from February. Surely this must indicate that they don't have the cash - or why would Lock not just pay them since many with pending max cashouts pending have been pretty vocal about it?

FWIW Hammer has got 4 cashouts out within the same timeframe I've got 0. But then again, I've requested larger amounts.
07-06-2013 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
Hammer just got paid under one month. You are the "some" I am referring to. To your credit at least you posted your payout.
The average seems to be over 100 days, for what has been tracked. There are a ton a ton of people who's requests aren't processed from April. That is not a processing issue, that is locks issue, I have been waiting over 2 months and one of the many who's withdrawal request status hasn't moved.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=134
07-06-2013 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
IHasTehNutz, do you seriously get off at night dreaming that Lock Poker will shut down and all these people will get screwed? I think you do.

It is amazing how you troll posts even when sunsibar is asking a serious question regarding whether WSOPE buyins will be will be expedited their cash, which they should be.

Don't you have a chart or something you need to post or are you too "jovial tonight" that people are waiting 4 months and up to get paid because of processing issues? Here's a novel idea, stroll over to the Merge forum and see that they too are having similar 3 month issues with check processing.

I know you nearly had a stroke when I posted that 9 + 1 more got paid by WU over the weekend, but get over it!!!! God forbid you have to figure out who these people are to subtract from monies owed on those pathetic charts of yours.

Here's a news flash: Half those people that IM'd you won't even tell you when they have been paid by Lock.

Fortunately 2+2 has some decent posters that will let the community know when they've been paid, most of whom were smart enough not to PM you.
U mad bro?

Don't worry. Once the gravy train grinds to a halt there's one place that I'm sure could use your talents.

07-06-2013 , 04:08 PM
Lol at "averaging for some". Yeah, some folks average a 1000000% ROI playing the lotto. Doesn't make it a good investment though.
07-06-2013 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
Hammer just got paid under one month. You are the "some" I am referring to. To your credit at least you posted your payout.
That's mainly cause my cashouts are pretty small compared to the ones that have been waiting much longer than 1-2 months.

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FWIW Hammer has got 4 cashouts out within the same timeframe I've got 0. But then again, I've requested larger amounts.
Exactly
07-06-2013 , 06:33 PM
^^ That's been the line all along. They add in small cashout requests at the end of every batch. That's how the Cardschat folks got theirs so quickly. How they got put in front of others with small amounts who were waiting, well...answer that, Mr. Costigan. Maybe some investigative journalism would be good in that regard.

I wonder though - and I've made this point here and to Shane: if you have $500 left in a batch, and the next oldest cashout request is $500, why wouldn't you push that through instead of doing 5 others at $100 a pop? "Batch management" seems to be an issue here. Selectively adding to batches, no matter if it's $10,000 or $1, isn't right. And it's why so many people are still waiting.
07-06-2013 , 06:34 PM
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Stabilizing would indicate that things were getting worse and now they're leveling off.
Quarter 2 it's pretty obvious was not one of their best with that Fair Play experiment and ongoing processing issues.
Getting rid of Fair Play, adding on new processors, reducing tournament overlays you'll see a gradual increase in traffic once again.
07-06-2013 , 06:41 PM
Why would it matter if Lock added more processors? Its not like they're shipping so many cash outs that they are exceeding some sort of limit, esp for non-US players.
07-06-2013 , 06:56 PM
Pretty sure the "batches" of withdraws they send out are directly drawn from the "batches" of new deposits. So if they get $300k in deposits one week, maybe they send out $200k worth of withdraws.

Costigan: If Lock shut down tomorrow, what percent of player funds would you guess that that they had on hand? 1%? 2%?
07-06-2013 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
Quarter 2 it's pretty obvious was not one of their best with that Fair Play experiment and ongoing processing issues.
Getting rid of Fair Play, adding on new processors, reducing tournament overlays you'll see a gradual increase in traffic once again.
Are you aware that Cake and Juicy have twice the tables Lock has under the current Fair Play segregation?

Pokerscout reports Revolution's traffic as seen from Cake, so Lock's traffic is actually 50% of what Pokerscout reports, meaning Lock has less than 300 players as their 7 day average.

That means Lock is a freaking tiny room! The 'clogged processors' and 'high volume room' excuses are a joke.

Lock is actually about the size of the Winning Network, which manages to pay all it's players (US and ROW) in a matter of days.
07-06-2013 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
Quarter 2 it's pretty obvious was not one of their best with that Fair Play experiment and ongoing processing issues.
Getting rid of Fair Play, adding on new processors, reducing tournament overlays you'll see a gradual increase in traffic once again.
Jesus, you're using "reducing tournament overlays" as an argument to INCREASE traffic?
07-06-2013 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ancelotti4
Jesus, you're using "reducing tournament overlays" as an argument to INCREASE traffic?
+1, he's ******ed, this is why he represents lock
07-07-2013 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
Quarter 2 it's pretty obvious was not one of their best with that Fair Play experiment and ongoing processing issues.
Getting rid of Fair Play, adding on new processors, reducing tournament overlays you'll see a gradual increase in traffic once again.
Would you just stop wasting your energy in trying to make us believe that "anything" has changed at Lock since your ridiculous shill interviews with Jen?

You not having any credibility on this board hasn't changed.

Dude, I probably have more players tracked under me on Lock than you. So don't try telling people like me that anyting has improved cause the "active players" numbers speak for themself.
07-10-2013 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Costigan
Quarter 2 it's pretty obvious was not one of their best with that Fair Play experiment and ongoing processing issues.
Getting rid of Fair Play, adding on new processors, reducing tournament overlays you'll see a gradual increase in traffic once again.
Visited your site earlier. I noticed there wasn't a single mention of Lock Poker anywhere. Just curious, did you drop their ads?

Even on the right hand side where it says "GAMBLING911 ENDORSED" and then has little links to all of the sites, the Lock tab is gone.

      
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