where does intertops have more 400nl games running than lock?...3:10am est and there are 0 2-4nl games running on intertops..only thing running is the occasional heads up table

im about to get a set in, but after reading all this should i even bother???

are you serious? there has been no good action at normal times for over a week. On sunday when the majors were on (prime fishing time) there was one 400nl and one 600nl table.

As one of your biggest rakers i am frankly appalled.

I said it before and I will say it again. This move has KILLED the PLO action on tops at almost all levels. Even the 1/2 tables are thin, and you can forget about getting 5/10 or 10/20 going.

this and the grind for glory tables have always seemed weird to me. i assume the whole purpose to working so hard to promote players to play on your own skin is cuz u get all the rake/something like that.

how does a network survive if skins can just persuade players into how to distribute their rake. why would other skins choose to stay with revolution???

You guys are the ProElite of poker and The Grinder is your Kimbo Slice.

yes this move has absolutely destroyed the PLO action

Is this segregation a sign on the highway towards site death?

So who has the most tables at 400 and up now?

Shane you say this is a great move for lock players and it helps build your site ,If this was such a great move then why did LOCK POKER NOT SEND A ****ING EMAIL TO PLAYERS OR MAKE A POST ON 2+2 instead you waited and told players only because you had to make a statement about it several days later when people noticed .Shane you and Lock Poker are OBV crooks how do you sleep at night.

Pretty standard for Lock. Its sad that the high profile names they have as pros want to be associated with such a terrible company. Its obvious Larson and Co. are very poor owner/operators. They have their own benefit too look after and thats all that matters to them.

Sad that they have the leverage they do in the current market.

I'm surprised they sectioned off games from skins like Intertops. Given Intertops is a massive sportsbetting type skin, their average player has to be a nice depositor/recreational level player.

If anything, due to the pros and high rewards style promos, I thought Lock would have the most grinders by far on the network, even when looking at it from a relative traffic viewpoint.

Of course, I could be entirely wrong, I have no data so this is just a "I thought" post and opinion.

Question for you guys, you can actually play those higher stakes games vs other Lock players still, right?

Lock going for the jugular. If I was Intertops I would just give in to the demands before the entire house of cards tumbles down.

Yeah thats how we all thought it would work out, but the data proved us wrong.

Lock players can play against other Lock players at all levels.


Because 80% of our players dont even know what a network is.

A lot of things that upset the regs/grinders are things that are done to keep the fish happy, the same fish that the regs/grinders feed off.

Even if I believe this high percentage to be true, I still believe that the majority of 2p2 users - part of your target market - are aware that other skins exist on the Revolution Network.

Because of this, I find it inexplicable as to why you couldn't create a Sticky thread "Notice: High Stakes Segregation." You could preemptively list out Lock's rational and logical reasoning behind such a change and then field any questions members of 2p2 have.

You surely had to know that the change would eventually surface. From a business standpoint I simply can't understand why you didn't here in the Lock subforum. Kind of like how I still don't understand why Lock doesn't overestimate cash out time frames instead of underestimating them and be more transparent about durations.

Shane-

At what level did you guys section off games for PLO? Did you really go all the way down to .50/$1?

There are 2 6mx games running total right now above .25/.5. There would normally be
15+.

Where at? Lock or Intertops?

Lock.

There is now 3 1/2 game (1 is 4 handed). 0 at .5/1. 0 at 2/4+. This is filtered for 6 max.

Interesting.

There's about 15 tables of plo50+ 6max at Intertops (~10 of which are .25/.50) right now.

I wonder what the split is like with the holdem games.

There was a bunch of .25/.50 (around 10) which makes me think that .5/1 is where it starts. Don't understand segregating .5/1-2/4 considering that isn't close to high stakes.

Ok, there's 5 games running at 1/2 now on tops, that's it above .25/.50, so maybe they aren't segregated?

I don't know.

1/2??? Up to a week ago there were plenty of 2/4, 3/6, 5/10 and even 10/20 running on Intertops. In the past week that has gone down to maybe a few 2/4 tables running. Heck, even today the 2/4 table couldn't even stay full.

It's really sad because Intertops is super fast in getting peoples money out and it appears from plenty of comments that Lock can't get payments processed in under 4-6 weeks. How sad that a site that can't even process payments in a timely manner is keeping their player pool fenced in. I'm glad I don't play there and never will.

So dumb.

Shane ****ing answer the questions on why limits are being segragrated you said high stakes only? now you ignore the important questions and answer the obvious ones

This is beyond stupid. The move like that would have some merrits if the network was like 3 times bigger as it is now. It will crush any midstakes + action ( and even lower stakes for Plo,fixed limit). Simply there is not enough liquidity to split the player pools.
So basically it will hurt any net withdrawing player (regs) that play for a living which won't be possible anymore on the network.

IMO thats the reason they want to do this. They will push 80% of the regs off the network (cause both lock and revolution player pools aren't big enough to sustain any reasonable 1/2,2/4 action). So no more bothering about withdrawals etc.