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I'd like an answer from Shane on this? Why are there less games running on lock then other networks.

any comment on this shane? i compared and noticed the same

Ummm ya 2nd thread about this. We could use some answers

Well it doesn't seem to be a glitch seems like something they did. There are a few reasons I could think why they did this. First they probably got sick of trying to figure out if someone is dumping to another player on a network like intertops that pays out fast since you can't transfer from one skin to another. Also I'm not positive about this but I would think most of the higher stakes grinders play on intertops or other faster paying skins and most of the high stakes fish play on lock, and lock got sick of sending a ton of money to intertops at the end of the month that the regs from intertops would win off fish from the lock skin. Those are the only two reasons I could come up with for doing this, but like I said I have no facts and that's just me thinking outside the box.

I think a bug is far more likely than an actual "decision". If it's a decision, this is no longer a network.

When you do not have the money to pay your players, you probably do not have the money to transfer to other skins..they can not afford to pay off big losses at the higher stakes..make sense to keep thos games in house...a thought anyways

I think if it was a bug it would be happening just to a few tables and it would also be happening and other stakes below 600nl. And it would still be a network just below 600nl. Sites do things like this all the time, I know for a while players that played at Americas card room didn't have any tables above 600nl but if you played on True poker you could play 1knl and they are on the same network. Im sure Americas card room decided they would rather have their fish play at the lower limits so they don't lose it as fast so they make more rake since its hard to get more then 1k on a site in one day. Also Ipoker is talking about or might be making a second network for the smaller skins and calling it Ipoker2 and leaving the bigger skins on Ipoker. I'm not sure the reasoning behind this but it might have something to do with the big skins not liking the fact that the small skins benefit off their huge player pools.

wat?

What skin are you referring to? I just cross checked and see no difference.

I just checked b/w Lock and another revolution gaming site that is available to ROW players and there definitely is a difference.

Different Heads up tables show, and different midstakes and higher tables show.

Can we get an explanation on this please?

I remember when I played on Everleaf network, it wasn't really talked about, but the network quietly made some Italy-only tables that the rest of the player pool couldn't sit at to protect the mega-fish, so yes, stuff like this definitely happens.

Shane,

thoughts on this?

We offer all the same stakes as everyone on the network but we have partitioned some of our higher stakes based on our current size and our soft poker ecology to better care for our players.

ecology - the study of the interaction of people with their environment

poker ecology - uh what

A healthy poker ecology is a combination of grinder type players who always ensure there is action as well as casual type players who always bring fresh deposits in.

Yep same way for me as well. I don't have a problem with it but it's concerning that no one has mentioned this to the players.

so lil confused.

which grinder will be suffering from less table selection, traffic?

the revolution players because their tables are segregated from other sites. other sites can see revolution tables however and therefore have the most selection.

or the other sites because revolution players can see all but they cant see rev tables?

you mean i could potentially be able to play more than 1 table of 400 or 600 nl fr if it were not for this segregation??? (not even sarcastic, thats pretty good that there is one table most nights. the thought of 2 or 3 is niceeee)


aww man just read more carefully. 1 is as good as it gets =(

So Lock has more games than the other skins?

I'm confused because some people seem to be commenting that there's less games/tables available for them on Lock now.

It is less. Way less actually, I was looking the other day and there were 3 people sitting for 400nl hu I went to another skin and there were 10+

is maybe lock US only now?

Are you saying your players are soft and play so bad that you don't want them losing to players from other skins on Revolution? This way the money stays in Lock and you don't have to transfer your soft players losses to other skins on the network? That's an interesting approach to take. However, why have a NETWORK if you don't allow all the players to compete against each other? It's not really a network any longer if you segregate players so they can't play within the network.

Makes you wonder if the speculation above about them not having the money to pay out to the skins is true.

Yeah I can't think of any answer that makes more sense than them not having the funds to cover big losses if they occur from Lock to another skin. I think this concerns me more than payouts taking forever and a day.

Several fishier skins on other networks have ring fenced their own tables. Its pretty standard.

What I'm wondering tho, is what Revolution skins are ring fencing their tables from the USA-facing skins?

Every damn week there's some new reason to not do business with this site. It's literally one sketchy thing after another, after another. Plus you can never get a straight answer from these people. I mean wtf, we've segregated the player pool to protect the ecology?? GTFO with that non answer of an answer.

You know what, Shane? You stink of shadyness just as much as anyone involved with this **** company. How's it feel to fly the colors of scum on your vest? If I get an infraction for this then you can eat a fat one also 2+2. You guys sit back and take the money, turn a blind eye to a site that continually makes life hell on a large portion of your 2+2 American base. The whole situation is one giant dumpster fire fueled by greed in every direction.

I'm done with Lock. The extra 1.5bb/100 rakeback shouldn't be worth it to anybody to put up with all the other problems this site offers.

Unfortunately, this seems like the inevitable result when you have one skin paying in about a week and another skin that takes 2 to 3 months or even longer in some cases. Where are all the winning players going to end up? Not on the 3-month payout skin.