The network released that it will be a roughly 1/3 split in each of the 3 levels at a network level.

When Lock as a room ran the numbers we found that by far the majority of our players were in the middle group.


The network had really hoped to get it out today but at this stage that doesn't look likely.

I just spoke their CTO and he said he will know for sure later in the day, as soon as I get the info I will come back and post here.

how much where playing?

So you're not going to tell us what group we are in and you're going to split up the already minuscule LHE traffic?

Nice marketing try Shane. For the greater good, and protecting the fish, how noble.

Boil this down and its exactly the same as Everleafs fail before abandoning USA players completely. Segregate the top players onto their own tables so they can only win from each other.

You make mintedneil Neil Butterfield look like an Angel, your such a manipulator and liar. You call this a faq, and you won't even define the criteria for the groupings, hiding the details in your opening statements using the term "etc" instead of being transparent and honest.

Here is the real faq in 33 words or less.

WINNINGEST PLAYERS ARE BEING SEGREGATED TO SLOWDOWN CASHOUTS. WE CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THOSE GUYS. PLEASE DONT CRY, WE ARE PROTECTING YOU FROM THE SHARKS, AND YOU BREAKEVENS CAN STILL GET YOUR RAKEBACK.

I really hope this improves cash out times(dreaming) so I can remove my entire bankroll and move along. This is the only benefit for the players and it probably won't happen.

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so..
wait you have already one

Just an update on the release date for Fair Play, I have just been informed that it definitely wont be this week.

It is tentatively scheduled for Wednesday next week.

It would be hilarious if this never gets off the ground.

You know what fair play is? Fair play is being able to exclude yourself from casino games without shutting down your whole cashier. It's just astonishing how you prioritize getting updates like these done asap but when it comes to other needed updates, that the players actually want, then you just spoon feed us a bunch of empty assurances. Your lack of loyalty and care for your customers and the respect to their money will continue to be the downfall of this network.

It's just amazing that even with a perfect example on how to run a poker site (Pokerstars), you are completely unable to mimic what is a proven successful business model. You even had another perfect example with Fulltilt, when they were actually on the up and up before they too got taken over by greed and resorted to what they did, which caused them to crash and burn just like what is happening to you.

You can do all the math and crunch the numbers all you want to calculate how to increase profits but those numbers will never show you how much revenue you lose due to players not referring their friends to play at such a joke site, or players losing the urge to put in as much volume as they would if they sensed the site operators actually had some integrity. And just because a person may be a bad poker player doesn't mean they're dumb enough to let the value of their money be reduced by 40% for no reason except that it's on your site instead of in their wallet, which is another thing your shady profit-increase number crunching wont tell you.

A poker sites job is to securely hold and distribute people's money (affectively a bank), deal a deck of cards fairly, and to protect those games from cheaters, while providing customer support for using this service for those that need it. Now when you start deviating from those straight-forward responsibilites, and instead focus on implementing every method of operation in which the monkey math tells you will bring in more profits, then players take notice and also adjust accordingly. Successful sites have clearly shown that all these cash grabs and profit drivin tweaks to the game aren't needed to boost revenue. Why dont you try running actual promotions that benefit more then a very small % of your player pool, or ones that aren't announced on your site after they have already begun. (yes, there was at least one time when a rake chase wasn't even announced until after it had already started)

My advice to players is to just stop supporting these crooked sites who show no integrity and have no respect for your money. Ignore their methods and try not to be brainwashed into accepting these shady site operator's twisted take on what poker should be and how it should be run. I can assure you supporting such a shady operation will not bring better things in the future for the game we all love to play, no matter how much this guy Shane spins the facts to tell you otherwise. Like another posted stated itt, if you continue to support this site you are supporting their destruction of the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're reconsidering. pretty clear they're going to alienate their player base and probably will insta-drop about 10 spots on pokerscout. all because of a dumb experiment that they might want to roll back in 2 months.

Wouldn't surprise me either. This only works if both your player pool is big enough, and if they don't mind and not too many people leave because of it. If PokerStars did this and they'd not lose too many people over it, it'd be massive +EV for them. Revolution's case is entirely different because the playerpool is already much smaller, though. Hopefully they realise the playerpool probably isn't big enough, but we'll see..

The only way this is possible is if a large percentage/majority of your winningest players are on the other skins and not on Lock. I find that hard to believe.

So the top 15% or so on lock are in the top 33% over the whole network? So like 45% or more of intertops winning players are in the top 33% overall?

Really?

And you wonder why so many don't trust or believe you?

Also, lol at the public bickering and finger pointing between the skins in that thread in the internet forum. Good god, what a disaster.

It's like you are purposefully trying to publicly convince your customers to stay far away from your site. I really don't understand why you would do that but I suppose they owe you some thanks for that.

There may actually be some truth to that claim. Wouldn't it make sense for winning players to move their play over to a skin that actually pays out in a respectable timeframe?

Also, Lock money trades at .60

Intertops trades at .97

whoa lock money trades at .60? lol I am so ****ing dumb.

Yeah, several people are even trading it at .50 today.

If you ran Lock poker, and assuming you aren't dead azz busted, wouldn't it make sense to go into the market place and buy at .50?

When we started segregating our players we talked about the problem of other skins being reg heavy and creating imbalance.

As someone else pointed out you in one of these threads earlier you only have to look around the affiliate sites to see the difference in the effort made to bring in new depositors.

So when you combine that with our slow cashouts the problem has really been amplified and we have ended up in a situation where much smaller rooms have a much higher percentage of the players who will be in that top bracket.

I offered to buy 5k at .45 in the HSNL thread but my post got removed because i'm not a "reg" here.

Your account says you joined Feb 2013. Why would the rules on the first page not apply to you?

Because someone asked the mods if this rule is still implemented and the mods say no it's not really enforced anymore!

There's your answer

Based on your experience today would you say that the mods do or do not enforce this rule anymore?

(There's your answer)

Did you wake up this morning on the wrong side of the bed? Did you just bust your bankroll or something?

That's besides my point it wasn't about my post getting removed it's about me low balling the price for lock at .45 that's what i think it's worth actually .40 now.

Lol, you prolly shouldn't expect to get too much love from the Lock forum at that price.

I'm pretty sure even the smallest of rules are strictly enforced on the P2P Transfer thread.