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Discussion and proposal of questions to direct to Shane Discussion and proposal of questions to direct to Shane

07-31-2013 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chopsy2
What about pokerscout having cipaco NV as the operator of Revolution, you know the network.
Lock Poker and the Revolution Network are owned by the same person/persons.
07-31-2013 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BuSTMeANuT
Lock Poker and the Revolution Network are owned by the same person/persons.
Shane said that wasn't the case not to long ago and quoted an interview from Lock's owner
07-31-2013 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jamthe3
Shane said that wasn't the case not to long ago and quoted an interview from Lock's owner
Yes, Shane lies and claims Lock doesn't own the network. This makes it very convenient for him to blame everything that goes wrong on "network" decisions which Lock has no say in. Once again I call bull****.
08-01-2013 , 03:41 AM
Shane why have you stopped logging into skype/responding to skype messages?

Just like to reiterate a question asked several times by Bictor Vlom:

Why has Jen Larson remained silent? When does she plan to speak publicly and address her broken promises from the G911 'interview' in May?

Thanks
08-01-2013 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Because business isn't done (including domain registration) in the company name of the brand.

And the fact that I brought up the other sites was to point out that this isnt unique, its what everyone does.

Its like you are digging for some weird smoking gun that just doesnt exist. Me explaining this multiple ways doesn't change the fact that very little if any business is completed in the online gaming world in the name of the actual gaming brand.
Not digging anything just asking legit questions like most of the people on this forum
08-01-2013 , 03:26 PM
Shane, when is the next batch of WU's? Nobody has reported receiving any for at least 2 weeks. I would really like to get my 6/1 WU sometime before christmas (not kidding), it's still just listed as requested. Thanks for helping get my previous withdrawals. I would really appreciate it if you could help with this one as well. I know that many people are still ahead of me.
08-01-2013 , 09:06 PM
RE: ROW Cashouts, specifically skrill:

I just recieved an email from Skrill confirming what I (and as others have already pointed out) initially thought, there are no limits put in place on VIP accounts for funding a Skrill account (bank wire to Skrill) and sending (Skrill to Skrill).

It was explained to me that I could personally transfer any amount from my bank account to my Skrill account and then send to as many other skrill accounts as I wish (again, common knowledge for Skrill VIP/pro gambler account holders)

Shane, if funds are segregated as we are lead to believe, why cannot lock follow this very simple process? You claim that processors enforce limits, so funding your Skrill account is not easy, I don't understand why you need to use 'processors' for this when anybody can do it. I may be simplifying things a little as I don't have in depth knowledge of your operation but I don't see why it is so complicated. The money is (supposedly) in a bank account, it needs to get to your Skrill account and onwards to players, why is this process so slow? And why do you need to use these secret (supposed sometimes rogue) processors for moving money in a completely legal environment and (IMO) simple manner?
08-02-2013 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by klunar
Shane why have you stopped logging into skype/responding to skype messages?
So he abandoned his Skype account? Nice.
08-02-2013 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
So he abandoned his Skype account? Nice.
Jim,

This is a vicious cheap shot. Clearly this issue has nothing to do with Shane being non responsive. Shane can "chase down" a request like nobodies business. This is simply an IT architecture problem that only Shane has with Facebook, Twitter, Skype, Yahoo mail, Google mail, PM, and every single forum and group Shane is registered to.

Come to think of it, the 2+2 mods might need to check this site. I can see lots of questions to Shane over the last week, but I don't see him answering even though he seems to log in every day. There must be a bug or something that prevents us from seeing all of Shanes well researched responses to the questions he is not answering. At least that big back log of cash outs is now gone and everyone can cash out in 4-5 weeks, just like he said.......
08-02-2013 , 11:33 AM
Shane,

At what rate is the backlog being cleared? Obviously no hard numbers, either in terms of number of people or amount of money, but perhaps this could be done by percentage. Like, is 5% of the backlog being cleared per month? 25%? -25%? Even if past results do not indicate future performance, because of processor issues or gremlins or whatever, how much of the backlog has been cleared to date?

Because obviously I don't have access to the network data, but to a casual observer in this forum, it would appear that you are adding new people to the backlog as fast as you clear them. Which would mean the backlog isn't being cleared at all.

Define "backlog" as people who have been waiting 3 months or more for their money. How quickly is it being cleared?
08-02-2013 , 08:03 PM
Suggestion for the moderated Q&A

Shane, could you please elaborate why a large number of your VIP players seem to be unable to receive their HoldemManager 2 licence from Lock?
08-02-2013 , 08:28 PM
I hate to constantly bring this up but I feel this needs an answer. Shane has stated Lock and Cake are independantly owned. But if you check under the terms and conditions of Lock you will find you are entering an agreement with cipaco NV with an address that is says is Dr. MJ Hugenholtzweg Z/N, UTS-Gebouw, Curacao. Now in WinCake T's and C's you will find you are entering an agreement with Cake entertainment NV that happens to have the same address. So while it may technically be true they are different companies how is it they have the same address. Shane please answer this.
08-02-2013 , 09:24 PM
chopsy just google "Dr. MJ Hugenholtzweg Z/N, UTS-Gebouw, Curacao" and you'll see that a ton of companies has the address listed as their offices. It is very common for lawyers and other "legal offices" who set up offshore companies to list their address as the clients offshore address. They "might" even have their signs up outside besides the lawyers signs and offer mail services or even office services to their clients.

You'd see a lot of those in Gibraltar as well for all kinds of offshores. Though the majority of Gibraltar licensed gaming companies does actually have their physical offices located on the Rock and is very different to Curacao.

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http://www.e-commercepark.com/services.php is a good example:

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he E-Commerce Park Office Building offers over 2,700 square meters of new completed office space providing an ideal home for everything from call centers to fully furnished executive offices. Facilities at E-Commerce Park include telephone and office equipment services, handling of deliveries and reception services, 24/7 security, daily clean and building maintenance. E-Commerce Park offers a full range of customized telecom and telecom-related services from partner United Telecom Services (UTS). UTS specializes in quality, reliability, good prices and prompt delivery time. The E-Commerce Park Office Building takes the troubles away from setting up office and getting down to business.

Last edited by HammerMan72; 08-02-2013 at 09:42 PM.
08-02-2013 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
Suggestion for the moderated Q&A

Shane, could you please elaborate why a large number of your VIP players seem to be unable to receive their HoldemManager 2 licence from Lock?
C'mon man, we all know why....$$$
08-02-2013 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
chopsy just google "Dr. MJ Hugenholtzweg Z/N, UTS-Gebouw, Curacao" and you'll see that a ton of companies has the address listed as their offices. It is very common for lawyers and other "legal offices" who set up offshore companies to list their address as the clients offshore address. They "might" even have their signs up outside besides the lawyers signs and offer mail services or even office services to their clients.

You'd see a lot of those in Gibraltar as well for all kinds of offshores. Though the majority of Gibraltar licensed gaming companies does actually have their physical offices located on the Rock and is very different to Curacao.
Thanks for the info Hammerman. Regardless I still feel this info along with the fact that pokerscout has cipaco NV listed as the owner of Revolution, shows that there are ties among WinCake, Lock, and Revolution that are more than just network/skin relationships. None of the other skins I have checked have that address, just to much of a coincidence going on here.
08-02-2013 , 09:48 PM
chopsy check out my edit above. You might have missed it.

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Regardless I still feel this info along with the fact that pokerscout has cipaco NV listed as the owner of Revolution, shows that there are ties among WinCake, Lock, and Revolution that are more than just network/skin relationships. None of the other skins I have checked have that address, just to much of a coincidence going on here.
Aren't offshore companies, their anonymity and how you can structure them a beautiful thing?

However, Shane stated a number of times that Lock registered Revolution but they never got full ownership of the network. Well he said they didn't buy it.
08-02-2013 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chopsy2
Thanks for the info Hammerman. Regardless I still feel this info along with the fact that pokerscout has cipaco NV listed as the owner of Revolution, shows that there are ties among WinCake, Lock, and Revolution that are more than just network/skin relationships. None of the other skins I have checked have that address, just to much of a coincidence going on here.
+1 ^this and the fact that "Jen" & Shane & Cake had no problem allowing everyone to believe their lie that Lock (Jen) owned Revolution for over a year. Sniff, sniff, quack-quack...ponzi
08-02-2013 , 09:57 PM
WinCake.com is registered in Cyprus though despite the fact that they are showing a Curacao Gaming licence.
08-02-2013 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
WinCake.com is registered in Cyprus though despite the fact that they are showing a Curacao Gaming licence.
Yeah, you're right...they're obviously a straight up entity
08-02-2013 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
chopsy check out my edit above. You might have missed it.



Aren't offshore companies, their anonymity and how you can structure them a beautiful thing?

However, Shane stated a number of times that Lock registered Revolution but they never got full ownership of the network. Well he said they didn't buy it.
So do you believe Shane when he says they are owned by separate owners? Personally I think the evidence shows they are the same owners therefore Shane has been lying again to everyone. Curious what your thoughts are.
08-02-2013 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
WinCake.com is registered in Cyprus though despite the fact that they are showing a Curacao Gaming licence.
Is there any reason lockpoker.eu is available? Isn't that the right domain?
08-02-2013 , 10:11 PM
I believe Shane when he says that he is still dealing with the same people at Cake that he has been dealing with before but I do not believe Shane being perfectly honest saying "the deal never went through in the end" but not to the extent that Jen Larson or Scumfry actually bought the entire network.
08-02-2013 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by chopsy2
Is there any reason lockpoker.eu is available? Isn't that the right domain?
Naa it's not. Who-is aint always right. Also shows wincake.eu being available but they are both of course taken and point where they are meant to point.

Edit:
Actually I think Corp New Ventures Services is only a domain registrar

Last edited by HammerMan72; 08-02-2013 at 10:22 PM.
08-02-2013 , 10:44 PM
Well, Lock Poker is off line. When you attempt to access a screen comes up saying there is an ERROR 116. Is this another Black Friday? Did Lock Poker not pay their server? Or is it as they say, and we all know how credible they are, really just a
technical problem?

AJT
08-02-2013 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
I believe Shane when he says that he is still dealing with the same people at Cake that he has been dealing with before but I do not believe Shane being perfectly honest saying "the deal never went through in the end" but not to the extent that Jen Larson or Scumfry actually bought the entire network.
I believe Lock and Cake became partners in Revolution. Not sure if you are aware but Jen Larsen and a couple of gentlemen who have been reported to own Cake both have residences in Vancouver, another coincidence?

One thing I have always wondered. Lock announced they were going to purchase Cake network and rebrand it before the supposed purchase date. If this deal fell through and Cake had another deal setup why was the Revolution brand name used if Lock was the one who was going to use it?

      
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