+1 here,

and if anybody need proof feel free to give me your skype account username by PM and i will add you and forward you AT LEAST 5 emails i got from security saying clearly ill never be able to cash out. I also got some from cashier. Support are muppets and some still answer players that you just need to wager it 1 time.

Fact is the cashier team confirmed me by 2 time that its the security team that authorize cash out and than the cashier proceed them. If security decide to **** you, then you are ****ed!

if lock treated all there players like you there would be no need for this. you get your cash outs amazingly your funds are not frozen due to p2p. any tips on why others players cant get withdraws or why there accounts are frozen and yours seems to run so smooth.

He could be part of their criminal organization. He seriously could replace Shane.

Mccormick, if you can cash out p2p you receive and you love lock so much... PM me i'd like to do some trading, ill give you a small vig.

Nah, Rizen/Shane/ahum, whoever...is simply enroute to the store for a new laptop.

They are too busy partying in Portugal.

Maybe tomorrow they will reply if the hangover isn't too bad.

Agreed on all of this for the most part. Which us why it is critical to have somebody in place here that can communicate the issues effectively to the players, understand what they are concerned about, communicate that back to lock and report back here correctly, etc. You need somebody to be able to say, "yeah, that doesnt look right to me either" and to get to the bottom of it.

Instead, Shane just tells people here to email lock again...even if the complaint or question is "lock support said this..is that right?"

And I suspect Shane's reports back to Lock are something like, "yeah, things are going okay on 2+2. A few players are concerned with support...but players always complain. Nothing to worry about

Seriously, Shane was so bothered at the players reporting legitimate issues here. He actually blamed the players and customers on several occasions. Just ridiculous lack of professionalism. We need somebody here who is not antagonistic to the freaking customers and can communicate like a normal person.

Whether the new person having better skills at this helps with the situation in general, I have no idea. But it can't hurt. I do think if any chance of repairing this exists then this aspect is legitimately important.

Note, I'm not making jokes about
Shane leaving or who the new guy will be. This is a serious deal. 2+2 getting involved is great so far. Lock is changing their rep here, they aren't closing up shop completely on here which I certainly was afraid could be a possibility. Not even close to the finish line or any kind of remedy here. But at least it isn't completely over after 2+2 put the pressure on...and lock has indicated they want to work with 2+2 about this.

Anybody putting any pressure on card player or any other affiliates?
http://www.cardplayer.com/online-pok.../33-lock-poker
Todd? Anyone?

Haha Jen Larson is gonna be pissed her little secret got out. http://news.rouletters.com/rumor-mil...t-0001351.html

Somebody needs to name the names of people on this trip.

Credit to jimafternoon for finding that tweet btw ^

I wonder what they are talking about over there.

Usually at company functions the discussions are based on how well the company is doing, how the company is growing and the future of the company.

Well Lock is doing terrible, numbers of customers has plumetted and the future looks bleak.

Must be a great atmosphere. I hope they have plenty of drugs and hookers to make the retreat worthwhile.

Do you have a source/link to the number of customers plummeting?

Edit: NVM, looking here http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail...on&ab=77657598

Yeah the 6month trend is pretty scary.

Still sick to my stomach to see so many people playing on the network, but I'm not sure what Lock's traffic is as opposed to the other skins on Revolution

It was actually thegroupie who first posted that....I don't know how he found it, I searched twitter but nothing came up for me. It's a good find though.

Shane probably quit when he realized they didn't invite him.

You know what, it does feel better in this forum now.

There was something truly disgusting about seeing that stupid boxer icon while all this was going on. The spaces where those banners used to be, and the guy recently posting "where's the sticky for the May promo?" makes this whole situation seem more real, like causes actually have affects.

Even if this doesn't mean people will get their money, at least the bullcrap isn't just blindly continuing forward.

Conversation with Lock:

Me: Hi, I was wondering if you are going to pay me

Them: I doubt it, but you can hope.

Me: Hope is over rated, just tell me if I'm getting paid

Them: We have been hit with affiliate shenanigans in the last month and we need to sort that out before we get back to paying players

Me: I am not an affiliate, why should I be penalized?

Them: It appears you signed up through an affiliate, so until we do a review we can not in good faith make further payments to you.

Me: Oh, I see. That makes sense. I guess I just need to be patient.

Them: Yes, remain calm, don't panic, be patient while we review your affiliate.

Me: Okay, I will do that. Thanks for taking the time to explain things.

Them: You are very welcome, can I be of further assistance?

Me: No, I just appreciate you taking the time to explain what is going on.

Them: Not a problem my friend. Keep hoping. You might want to pray also.

Me: I will, goodbye.

Them: Goodnight Irene

You are trolling there right?

I changed the names and the context of the post to disguise my true identity. I don't want to be pushed to the back of the queue.

this is somewhat good news, hopefully this "new rep" can simply give us credible and straightforward answers.

This post was from poker journalist Steve Ruddock (Steve-O) on my forum:

Now you know where some of your player deposits went.

Keep in mind that Ruddock has been much more of a Lock defender over the past year, so this is not a guy who routinely hates on them or finds reasons to slam them.

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...l=1#post148112

I suggest the name ImJustShady for the next rep since the narrative may change but little else is likely to.

Ya, maybe if this was 2004. Who goes to card player.com or reads their magazine (if its not free in a casino)?

Seriously though, what 2pl2 is doing is a good step but I personally think its too late. But since I don't have money on Lock I won't keep pressing the issue, because there are people who are seriously affected by this and their opinions matter more than mine. I am just mad at what Lock as done to the poker community, and to my friends.

If it were up to me, I would treat Lock Poker like the thieves they are and just boot em all together. But I imagine that is not in the players interest because players want a support thread. So, this probably is the best action to take even if there is a only a 5% chance everything turns out already, its probably worth taking because we are so far down the hole now that its best to try to work with them.

{As an aside, that is how all scams work.. they steal from you and tell you it will be OK, so you believe them because you want to believe it so bad that you latch onto every new excuse they have until the scam is finally complete and they leave you for good}

However, if its serious credible information your looking for I don't see why anyone would think that going to begin starting today. Just like people, when a company scams, steals, and scams some more ... and every time they go "but from now on it will be different", its never different. All that is going to happen is for the next 6-12 months that support thread will be lit up with complaints, and its going to give them more time to stall.

I really feel bad for you guys who have money trapped on there (regardless of whether people should of been more careful, not being careful with your money doesn't give someone else the right to steal it from you). I really really really hope it works out in the end for you guys.

Yeah, and its also nice that these guys have gotten involved. It really can't get much worse than what most seem to already fear; so hopefully that reciprocates along the line that it can only get better.

With those fingers crossed though, keep in mind that if their are adequate legitimate reasons/rational to the miriad of issues with this skin/network/whatever they could have probably pretty easily have resolved the questions to Mr. Sklansky's satisfaction in today's earlier conversation already.

Let's try to keep a positive Karma

okay can we pleeeeeeaaaaaase stop the dumb negative speculation? Yes, we get it, we don't trust lock, etc etc
let's first see what this rep has to say eh?