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Old 07-28-2011, 01:41 AM   #31
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

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i still dont understand which is better, casino bonus means you have to gamble in the casino with it??
If you can rake over $1k a month then I would suggest you to join the VIP program as that would put you in the 3rd level.

And yes, the casino bonus will have some sort of a play-through requirement. If you want more help deciding feel free to PM me and I will help as much as I can.
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:33 AM   #32
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If you can rake over $1k a month then I would suggest you to join the VIP program as that would put you in the 3rd level.

And yes, the casino bonus will have some sort of a play-through requirement. If you want more help deciding feel free to PM me and I will help as much as I can.
i can definitely rake over 1k gross per month easily......
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:37 AM   #33
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rakeback is 35% + 6.5%=41.5% (you do have to buy into tournys with the points)

vip black is 20% + 20%= 40% (all cash, but you must play 10k points each month)

If something comes back to replace the casino bonus, i would switch to vip, but as of now I am really glad i didnt switch.
is this right? i should stick with RB then? i dont really want casino bonus in which i have to play....i mean i would but that **** has to be rigged lol imo.
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:54 AM   #34
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is this right? i should stick with RB then? i dont really want casino bonus in which i have to play....i mean i would but that **** has to be rigged lol imo.
If you don't want to have to play the casino bonus then no worries but that does put it over the 40% I was just letting you know the most effective rakeback plan for you. The house BJ edge is only 2.5% as it is easy to play optimal online. In reality the choice is yours, I am not a huge fan of the casino either but as a poker player I want to be able to receive as much effective RB as possible.
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:37 PM   #35
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

how is BJ edge 2.5%? i though BJ edge is only supposed to be less than 1%
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:41 PM   #36
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how is BJ edge 2.5%? i though BJ edge is only supposed to be less than 1%
Sorry what I was implying was that the house only has a 2.5% edge meaning $100 would have an expected value of $97.50 over a long period. However there is obviously variance just as there is with poker.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:28 PM   #37
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i think it takes 100s of thousands of hands to get the long run in blackjack doesn't it....just like poker....someone correct me if im wrong....clearly the few hundred hands spent clearing a casino bonus would not be anything close to the long run thus adding wild variance to the "bonus"
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:29 PM   #38
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i think it takes 100s of thousands of hands to get the long run in blackjack doesn't it....just like poker....someone correct me if im wrong....clearly the few hundred hands spent clearing a casino bonus would not be anything close to the long run thus adding wild variance to the "bonus"
I would say this is fairly accurate, so then it becomes a matter of how much you want to limit this variance. If you just wanna spend all of your bonus on one hand, then your swings are gonna be super high. If you break it down and play a bunch of hands, it will of course be lower variance.
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Old 07-30-2011, 02:52 PM   #39
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

SO if I am a rake back player at the black level can I enter into the last sunday of the month free-rolls that I qualify for? or would I have to switch?
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Old 07-30-2011, 04:54 PM   #40
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

Emailed support on July 23rd about switching from rakeback to VIP. Got a response on the 24th stating it was fowarded to the VIP team to have me switched. A week later I have stopped getting responses and I am still a rakeback player. So much for this new and improved support system. I got better response times before this "new" system was in place.
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Old 07-30-2011, 08:59 PM   #41
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SO if I am a rake back player at the black level can I enter into the last sunday of the month free-rolls that I qualify for? or would I have to switch?
If you are a black level VIP as a RB player you should have received a notification that you have a tourney ticket, and you should be able to register. I received mine for the silver level.
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Old 07-30-2011, 09:01 PM   #42
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Emailed support on July 23rd about switching from rakeback to VIP. Got a response on the 24th stating it was fowarded to the VIP team to have me switched. A week later I have stopped getting responses and I am still a rakeback player. So much for this new and improved support system. I got better response times before this "new" system was in place.
That is not good. I intend to switch over August 1st, since I've raked over 1K this month as a RB player, and plan to increase volume considerably next month.

They better not take forever on it. I don't think I can quite make it to black at 65%
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:00 PM   #43
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

What happened to the 50k free roll i only see a bunch of bs 4k freerolls in the lobby I thought the last sunday of the month there would be a 50k freeroll for anyone who raked more than 5k points. where is it? Am I just stupid? totally a possibility if anyone knows though please let me know whats going on.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:30 PM   #44
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I just want to confirm before I follow through: My VIP points will NOT be zeroed upon my switching from RB to VIP, correct?
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Old 07-31-2011, 05:57 PM   #45
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What happened to the 50k free roll i only see a bunch of bs 4k freerolls in the lobby I thought the last sunday of the month there would be a 50k freeroll for anyone who raked more than 5k points. where is it? Am I just stupid? totally a possibility if anyone knows though please let me know whats going on.
There used to be a 50k freeroll on Merge, but they haven't had that for a couple years.
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