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Old 07-05-2011, 09:04 AM   #1
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changing from rakeback to vip

from the lock rakeback players tos...

" Please be advised that if you are a rakeback player and wish to switch to the VIP program your VIP points must be zeroed out before we can make the change."

does this really happen?
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:02 AM   #2
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

I'm double checking, last I was told the answer was no, this does not happen.

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Old 07-05-2011, 02:04 PM   #3
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

Do you gets to keep the same status once u have attained it? or is it on a monthly basis?
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Old 07-05-2011, 06:40 PM   #4
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

I've double checked, no your VIP points do not get zeroed out before making the change. I'll ask them to update the TOS.

Once you attain a status it carries forward to the next month, but you have to keep hitting the appropriate amount of points each month to get it to carry forward. It works very similar to Stars system if you're familiar with that.

So let's say this month (July) you hit Silver. You would then be Silver for August as well, but if you don't hit the 5,000 VIP points needed to attain silver, you would be moved down in September to the appropriate level. Make sense?

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Old 07-05-2011, 10:41 PM   #5
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

How do you know which rakeback your getting? I signed up with an affiliate so Im getting 35% rakeback, but Im black level VIP and Ill be at the highest level by the end of the month, how do I make sure im VIP and not getting only 35% RB?
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Old 07-05-2011, 11:45 PM   #6
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How do you know which rakeback your getting? I signed up with an affiliate so Im getting 35% rakeback, but Im black level VIP and Ill be at the highest level by the end of the month, how do I make sure im VIP and not getting only 35% RB?
Rakeback and the VIP program are separate. If you want to be switched over to the VIP program email support@lockpoker.com

Black VIP and Black Elite VIP are both better than the 35% rakeback options so it would be in your interest to switch.

Let me know if you need anything else.
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Old 07-06-2011, 12:40 AM   #7
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Rakeback and the VIP program are separate. If you want to be switched over to the VIP program email support@lockpoker.com

Black VIP and Black Elite VIP are both better than the 35% rakeback options so it would be in your interest to switch.

Let me know if you need anything else.
Black vip needs casino bonus to be better than 35% rakeback...

any one heard anything about the future of casino bonus?
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Old 07-06-2011, 12:50 AM   #8
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Black vip needs casino bonus to be better than 35% rakeback...

any one heard anything about the future of casino bonus?
Did you factor in that VIP players rake at 100% compared to the 65% of a RB player?

Also, I know Rizen is trying to confirm with Merge on the Casino Bonuses. Obviously there has been a lot of confusion from skin to skin on what exactly everyone is allowed and permitted to do.
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Old 07-06-2011, 08:31 AM   #9
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

rakeback is 35% + 6.5%=41.5% (you do have to buy into tournys with the points)

vip black is 20% + 20%= 40% (all cash, but you must play 10k points each month)

If something comes back to replace the casino bonus, i would switch to vip, but as of now I am really glad i didnt switch.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:31 AM   #10
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

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Once you attain a status it carries forward to the next month, but you have to keep hitting the appropriate amount of points each month to get it to carry forward. It works very similar to Stars system if you're familiar with that.

So let's say this month (July) you hit Silver. You would then be Silver for August as well, but if you don't hit the 5,000 VIP points needed to attain silver, you would be moved down in September to the appropriate level. Make sense?

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Sounds abt right.thnx
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:56 AM   #11
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

grrrrrrrrrrr
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:56 AM   #12
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

And if I change from Rakeback to VIP can I exchange my existing points to cash?
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:39 PM   #13
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And if I change from Rakeback to VIP can I exchange my existing points to cash?
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I've double checked, no your VIP points do not get zeroed out before making the change. I'll ask them to update the TOS.


-Rizen
Hope that helps! Please let me know if I can further assist.
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Old 07-10-2011, 02:00 PM   #14
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Re: changing from rakeback to vip

Well there is a difference between not getting zeroed and being able to redeem cash for them.
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Old 07-10-2011, 02:04 PM   #15
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Well there is a difference between not getting zeroed and being able to redeem cash for them.
Sorry I misunderstood the question. It appears that would be manipulating the system but I am sure you will at least be able to use those points to register for tournaments still.

I will have Rizen confirm when he can,
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