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08-03-2012 , 09:45 AM
How are cash outs to Neteller and skill, are suing fast now?
08-03-2012 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwatt
Yea my trial is almost done, would be nice to know if I can get it for free or not.
I'm asking someone now, will update as soon as I hear something.

Thanks

-Rizen
08-03-2012 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KA_belo
How are cash outs to Neteller and skill, are suing fast now?
2 days for my 2k Skrill cashout just arrived, requested august 1
08-03-2012 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mccormick
2 days for my 2k Skrill cashout just arrived, requested august 1
thanks for the reply!
08-03-2012 , 08:20 PM
Today was the first I played this month and I raked $30 - didn't get any Ronin payment - safe to assume I missed the boat on this one? I'm a RB player too
08-03-2012 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackFr1day
Today was the first I played this month and I raked $30 - didn't get any Ronin payment - safe to assume I missed the boat on this one? I'm a RB player too
This month they are enforcing the limited rewards on each level. Level 9 looks like it could possibly get closed out tonight which would means the first 10 levels only took about 4 days to lock up (bottom level is labeled level 0). Opinions vary on if having the lower levels lock out that fast is a big deal. Here is a re-listing of Ronin leaderboard that had been posted in here earlier.

http://lockpoker.eu/promos/ronin/leaderboard/
08-03-2012 , 09:39 PM
Removing the top 3 levels (which are unattainable for anyone anyway), and adding that ~$73k to the bottom tiers would do a LOT for the recreational/small volume guys IMO.

Of course Lock would end up paying more, since that $73k is previously not awarded, but the total promo would still be 1 million, and people would be happier.
08-03-2012 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Schwatt
Removing the top 3 levels (which are unattainable for anyone anyway), and adding that ~$73k to the bottom tiers would do a LOT for the recreational/small volume guys IMO.

Of course Lock would end up paying more, since that $73k is previously not awarded, but the total promo would still be 1 million, and people would be happier.
Ofcourse people would be happyer, it's sick value as it is already, though. That 73k paid is only being awarded after the player first PAID for it. If you distribute it among the bottom, that's no longer so. They're already paying some players to play rather than being paid by rake.

It's a race for level 9 (550$ in rake paid, 60 slots only) now, after that i think almost everyone who puts in the volume gets paid pretty much.
08-04-2012 , 12:17 AM
Yea after day 2 I just said the heck with Ronin. I only rake $1500 per month and probably won't get paid for a single level. Regardless I think it is fair as higher volume players should get paid a lot more than low level rakers like myself.
08-04-2012 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mccormick
It's a race for level 9 (550$ in rake paid, 60 slots only) now, after that i think almost everyone who puts in the volume gets paid pretty much.
I disagree. It is 4.5 days into the months, level 10 is more than 1/3 of the way locked and level 11 is more than 1/5 of the way locked. So over the remainder of the month those clearly have a chance of getting closed out. Level 12, that may or may not close out, is more than twice the rake as the level 9 you quoted. Level 9 ($550 rake paid) versus level 12 ($1,150 rake paid).
08-04-2012 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by thenextlevel1
Yea after day 2 I just said the heck with Ronin. I only rake $1500 per month and probably won't get paid for a single level. Regardless I think it is fair as higher volume players should get paid a lot more than low level rakers like myself.
I gotta ask ya...

1. Would you run a site where after only 2 days into a monthly promo, you have players on your site that rake $1,500 saying "the heck with Ronin", expecting to get NOTHING, and that is good business plan, seriously?

2. What exactly is your "higher volume players should get a lot more than low rakers" numbers? It is 4.5 days into the month and most low rakers are now going to to ZERO. The umlimited method that was in effect up until this month was a rake chase instead of a rake race (even though listed as a race). You mean the old unlimited method of a level 20 getting 45%+ Ronin RB versus a low level getting like 15% Ronin RB wasn't a "lot more enough" for ya?

Just wondering.
08-04-2012 , 10:22 AM
What about the monthly $10,000 freeroll for VIP players? Is that occurring this month? If not are they gonna bring it back? It's still listed on there VIP page.
Thanks
08-04-2012 , 11:01 AM
Despite the unpleasing snarky tone in her post, I generally agree with ladybruin's point here.

Lock would be wise to expand or lose the max-out aspect. So many players that can't even get an extra $5 or whatever because they started late. Great that the small handful gets a ton and good for them for jumping all over this but I think we also want volume encouragement and general help for the micro players, etc.

Thankfully, I do think lock will see this and consider making adjustments for the future.
08-04-2012 , 05:32 PM
so can THEFUTURE be used more than once? on the lockpoker site it says redeemable once per player? some clarity would be most appreciated plz! plz and thank you!
08-04-2012 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Team_Josh122
so can THEFUTURE be used more than once? on the lockpoker site it says redeemable once per player? some clarity would be most appreciated plz! plz and thank you!
Yes, you can use that code again if you have finished your current deposit bonus. Obviously you can't clear two at the same time.
08-04-2012 , 07:14 PM
Adding to what Brian just said, you can stack bonuses. Some might get confused and think that there is no reason to put the code in on a deposit if they are currently running a bonus.
08-04-2012 , 08:02 PM
thx 4 the clarification guys, most appreciated...
08-04-2012 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Team_Josh122
thx 4 the clarification guys, most appreciated...
No problem...good addition by ladybruin.
08-04-2012 , 10:31 PM
Ugh, got burned by HEM showing my rake ~$7 more than it actually was and missed the smallest level(level 9) by $5. Would've double checked my admin page this morning but son was vomiting for a few hours. Double whammy
08-05-2012 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Schwatt
Removing the top 3 levels (which are unattainable for anyone anyway), and adding that ~$73k to the bottom tiers would do a LOT for the recreational/small volume guys IMO.

Of course Lock would end up paying more, since that $73k is previously not awarded, but the total promo would still be 1 million, and people would be happier.
+1 to this. i can rake $1500 a month and i still missed out on a lot of levels this month
08-05-2012 , 08:15 PM
the way ronin is based now, only high stakes and medium stakes cash game players or players who mass multitable for hours every day stand a chance at getting anything of significant value from ronin
08-05-2012 , 09:09 PM
This is how almost all other rakechases work
08-05-2012 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WiCane
This is how almost all other rakechases work
I'll be a bit of a nit and say that "chases" is usually used for individual chases. It is "races" that is usually used for competition races.

And Although you are correct in stating that this is how races work, I think what people are trying to get across is that they prefer individual chases.

Lock Poker has been laughable in how often their web pages are wrong. The examples are many. Ronin, for example, though listed as having limited rewards (a race) has NEVER before this month enforced the limits (thereby making it an individual race). Worse yet, take a look at the first sentence of the first of post of this thread. Shane said everything will be exactly the same as the previous month. Well I guess that turned out to be a lie.

Wicane, this isn't people not understanding a race. It is people saying, "what the **** happened to the chase that has always been in effect?" And essentially saying they prefer an individual chase to a competition race.

Another interesting point is that it wasn't until the weekend that some of these "where are my Ronin payments" type posts occured. Some people can only really put in play on the weekend. Those players get totally screwed by limited rewards and several are only now seeing that limited rewards is crap. And that they are losing 20%+ Ronin RB because of it.

So I guess Lock Poker is saying, hey recreational players to hell with you now, maybe try some of our competition monthly promos like on Merge's RPM. Because Ronin is a zero for you now.

Last edited by ladybruin; 08-05-2012 at 09:36 PM.
08-05-2012 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ladybruin
I'll be a bit of a nit and say that "chases" is usually used for individual chases. It is "races" that is usually used for competition races.

And Although you are correct in stating that this is how races work, I think what people are trying to get across is that they prefer individual chases.

Lock Poker has been laughable in how often their web pages are wrong. The examples are many. Ronin, for example, though listed as having limited rewards (a race) has NEVER before this month enforced the limits (thereby making it an individual race). Worse yet, take a look at the first sentence of the first of post of this thread. Shane said everything will be exactly the same as the previous month. Well I guess that turned out to be a lie.

Wicane, this isn't people not understanding a race. It is people saying, "what the **** happened to the chase that has always been in effect?" And essentially saying they prefer an individual chase to a competition race.

Another interesting point is that it wasn't until the weekend that some of these "where are my Ronin payments" type posts occured. Some people can only really put in play on the weekend. Those players get totally screwed by limited rewards and several are only now seeing that limited rewards is crap. And that they are losing 20%+ Ronin RB because of it.

So I guess Lock Poker is saying, hey recreational players to hell with you now, maybe try some of our competition monthly promos like on Merge's RPM. Because Ronin is a zero for you now.
These players aren't getting anything in their rake races either. These players can take advantage of Lock's pretty good deposit bonus and 36% rakeback which I'm guessing is more cumulative RB then any over site (other Merge skins I've played on don't offer more).

Their website lists what Ronin is and that it has limitations. IMO people should be happy they had 2 months of unlimited bonuses instead of being upset when they finally enforce it. There is only so much free money a site can give out before they aren't profitable so IMO its not shocking they finally capped it this month. I would love for it to be uncapped but I'm realistic in understanding that they still have a business to run and need to make money.
08-05-2012 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by WiCane
Their website lists what Ronin is and that it has limitations. IMO people should be happy they had 2 months of unlimited bonuses instead of being upset when they finally enforce it. There is only so much free money a site can give out before they aren't profitable so IMO its not shocking they finally capped it this month. I would love for it to be uncapped but I'm realistic in understanding that they still have a business to run and need to make money.
Since you are over 1.5 y-e-a-r-s off on how long an unlimited Ronin has been around, I'll let everyone else decide if your logic falls flat.

      
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