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05-20-2013 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by vindictive27
Shane, it is clear that you, and/or whoever is informing you of this information is just wrong. As I stated, I was a financial services auditor for KPMG, and I'm sure there are several CPA's in this Lock community. Your company structure, (as you told me you could not disclose), most definitely consists of subsidiaries, and I'd bet a LOT on it. So in essence, Lock has a parent company "Lock Poker", and should have a subsidiary company in each location. If you don't have one for each country, in the very LEAST, "Lock U.S." is a subsidiary that was created right away (I'm SURE of it) for serious legal reasons. And with that "Lock U.S." subsidiary, U.S. player funds would be untouchable and untraceable by an accounting firm providing an audit unless they were hired either specifically for that subsidiary or the parent company itself.

As I've clearly stated, an accounting firm wouldn't be held liable for information on U.S. funds for auditing subsidiary companies such as "Lock UK", "Lock Netherlands", "Lock France", etc. because the accounting firm wouldn't have been given the authorization to even VIEW the U.S. numbers whatsoever. That accounting firm would have to be hired to audit "Lock U.S." in order to have such information. So Lock would have absolutely NO problem finding an accounting firm for non-U.S. subsidiaries. It is clear that you do not have an accounting background, so please stop misleading people on liability in regards to audits. If you are getting information from someone else, I also question their credentials considerably.

An accounting firm based in Italy (just for example sake) could be hired to audit 1, 2, 5, 10, however many subsidiaries Lock hires them to audit. I repeat, as long as they weren't hired to audit "Lock U.S." or the parent company overall, that firm would in NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM be liable to the U.S. government for U.S. player funds, nor would ANYONE have any tracing of U.S. player funds via this "road map" you speak of. And from a legal standpoint, Lock would never NOT have subsidiaries because they would want to segregate funds, profits, losses, AND liability. So I don't care if your answer is "I can't comment on the company's structure" because I'm already certain that Lock Poker has a parent company and a "U.S." subsidiary which would stay completely separate from the audit of a non-U.S. subsidiary that's a part of Lock.

So answer me this, or please send it to your CFO who should be a damn CPA himself: Why can't Lock hire an accounting firm to audit the funds of non-U.S. subsidiaries? I AM a U.S. player myself, but it would be vital information to me that Lock proved via audit that their player funds from other countries EXISTED.
You really need to look into the Kim Dotcom situation and see what level entire countries will bend to meet the demands of the DoJ.

When an entire country is willing to do everything in its power to assist the DoJ how can you expect an accounting firm not to do the same?
05-20-2013 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
Shane has been trying to discredit me in recent days, because some troll sent him a link to a story about a scammer on my forum. That's what happens when you run a poker forum, Shane. You can't do a background check on everyone that posts there, so obviously there will be a few scammers and other unsavory characters among the group. But you can't blame me for that, just as you can't blame Mason for scammers on 2+2.
Actually the important difference is your relationship with the scammer and from what I read there was no attempt from you to help make the situation right.

So despite spending a lot of your time on here trying to force people to your will to do "what is right" in your own backyard, in your own forum you dont hold your own friends to the same standard.

It might be just me but that seems a little out of wack.
05-20-2013 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by champstone
I think I have answer to locks usa pay out problem. After thinking it over the one thing you have is plenty of pros compared to number of players, there on the road going to tournys from town to town , you have them pay players. Maybe have t shirts saying I was paid by a lock pro. I could see this being big hit. Door bell rings who is it , some guy says he is the grinder, like the prize patrol.
Moving money into the US is the problem, just as its very hard to get funds to individual players inside the US its equally hard to get funds to our Pros inside the US.
05-20-2013 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BackBlood
Shane you never answered this question
Sorry, there will be another Neteller batch later this week.
05-20-2013 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
You really need to look into the Kim Dotcom situation and see what level entire countries will bend to meet the demands of the DoJ.

When an entire country is willing to do everything in its power to assist the DoJ how can you expect an accounting firm not to do the same?
Kim Dotcom had 150 Million registered users, Lock is tiny in comparison. If the USA DoJ wanted Lock Poker. They would already have Lock Poker.

Why can't Lock rent a location and have the auditing firm come to that location and tell them "nothing leaves here; all of the auditing is done here."

e.g. in Stock firms across the US, the auditing firms frequently do the audits right in the office of the firm and no paperwork is taken from the premises.

Last edited by DonSwanLeon; 05-20-2013 at 05:51 AM.
05-20-2013 , 11:35 AM
[5/14/2013 9:36:52 AM] Me: hi shane
[5/14/2013 9:37:05 AM] Me: Did you get a chance to check my status?
[5/14/2013 9:37:54 AM] shane.lockpoker: There are 2 WU batches going out shortly, one is going today or tomorrow, and the other Friday/Monday
[5/14/2013 9:38:17 AM] shane.lockpoker: They said it should be in one of those, they couldnt be more specific till we hear back from the processor.
[5/14/2013 9:38:25 AM] Me: ok
[5/14/2013 9:38:25 AM] Me: thanks
05-20-2013 , 11:36 AM
[4/15/2013 11:18:33 AM] shane.lockpoker: HI (My first name)
[4/15/2013 11:19:03 AM] shane.lockpoker: Did your WU make it out in the batch late last week?
[4/15/2013 11:19:04 AM] (My first name) (My last name): i still haven't gotten my WU cashout, it has been 10 weeks already...i talked to 3 different support they all told me i will receive it soon...
[4/15/2013 11:19:04 AM] (My first name) (My last name): no
[4/15/2013 11:19:29 AM] shane.lockpoker: There is another batch in transit which should be the end of those outstanding batches, that should hit in the next 72 hours
[4/15/2013 11:19:42 AM] shane.lockpoker: Though could hit as soon as overnight
[4/15/2013 11:19:49 AM] (My first name) (My last name): k
[4/15/2013 11:19:54 AM] (My first name) (My last name): hopefully i am on it
[4/15/2013 11:19:55 AM] (My first name) (My last name): MAR 03, 2013 | 07:46AM EST
Hello (My first name),

Thank you for your email. Please be informed that your cash out is currently processing and you will shortly receive an email with the information you need to pick up your funds.


Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Kind regards,

Mark
[4/15/2013 11:20:06 AM] (My first name) (My last name): i been receiving this kind of replies since early march
[4/15/2013 11:20:33 AM] (My first name) (My last name): hopefully, i will get it this week. thanks
[4/15/2013 11:30:46 AM] shane.lockpoker: From what I was told this morning this is the end of the really old ones waiting to be cleared so it should be.
[4/15/2013 11:31:01 AM] (My first name) (My last name): thank you
hi shane
[4/17/2013 6:45:01 PM] shane.lockpoker: Hi
[4/17/2013 6:45:13 PM] (My first name) (My last name): 2013-02-09 03:06:51 WesternUnion Verified
[4/17/2013 6:45:21 PM] (My first name) (My last name): status still haven't change yet?
[4/17/2013 6:45:36 PM] (My first name) (My last name): is it possible for you to find out when I should expect to get processed?
[4/17/2013 6:45:53 PM] shane.lockpoker: I was told this batch will probably still be arriving till the end of tomorrow.
[4/17/2013 6:46:09 PM] (My first name) (My last name): okay
[4/17/2013 6:46:13 PM] (My first name) (My last name): thanks
[4/17/2013 6:47:13 PM] (My first name) (My last name): hopefully i will get it by end of the today tomorrow, thank you.
[4/18/2013 11:51:55 PM] (My first name) (My last name): hi shane
[4/19/2013 10:41:30 AM] (My first name) (My last name): Hi Shane
[4/19/2013 10:41:40 AM] shane.lockpoker: Hi (My first name)
[4/19/2013 10:41:50 AM] (My first name) (My last name): I sitll haven't received my 2k
[4/19/2013 10:41:58 AM] (My first name) (My last name): should I be expecting to receive it today?
[4/19/2013 10:42:52 AM] shane.lockpoker: They just let me know they squeezed out another batch.
[4/19/2013 10:43:03 AM] shane.lockpoker: Originally it was just early this week and early next week
[4/19/2013 10:43:06 AM] shane.lockpoker: But there was another today.
[4/19/2013 10:43:16 AM] shane.lockpoker: So it could hit today or early next week.
[4/19/2013 10:43:26 AM] (My first name) (My last name): okay
[4/19/2013 10:43:43 AM] (My first name) (My last name): and this would clear all the outstanding ones from January and early Feb?
[4/20/2013 1:18:23 PM] (My first name) (My last name): hi shane
[4/20/2013 1:18:56 PM] (My first name) (My last name): are all the outstanding withdrawal from Jan and Feb going to be clear by next week?
[4/21/2013 10:42:28 AM] (My first name) (My last name): Hi Shane
[4/23/2013 11:49:21 AM] (My first name) (My last name): Hi Shae
[4/23/2013 11:49:22 AM] (My first name) (My last name): shane8
[4/23/2013 11:49:25 AM] (My first name) (My last name): shane*
[4/23/2013 11:49:46 AM] shane.lockpoker: HI
[4/23/2013 11:50:26 AM] (My first name) (My last name): I still haven't receive the sender's info and control number for my feb 8th cashout, could you please check when they will most likely process it?
[4/23/2013 11:51:35 AM] shane.lockpoker: The batch has been processed by the processor, just waiting on the MTCNs to come back, they are expecting that to happen Wed/Thurs
[4/23/2013 11:52:20 AM] (My first name) (My last name): okay thanks. So i should definitely expect to get my money by Thursday?
[4/23/2013 2:01:23 PM] shane.lockpoker: Thats my understanding
[4/23/2013 2:01:50 PM] (My first name) (My last name): thanks
05-20-2013 , 11:38 AM
Shane, did you check my status? It is Monday already, and I haven't received my cash yet...my request was from early February...I would appreciate if you can give me truthful and concrete answer...thanks.
05-20-2013 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
You really need to look into the Kim Dotcom situation and see what level entire countries will bend to meet the demands of the DoJ.

When an entire country is willing to do everything in its power to assist the DoJ how can you expect an accounting firm not to do the same?
What happened to the stance Jen Larson took that no accounting firm would do it? Now it's become, 'we wouldn't want them to do it because it could trace them to U.S. player funds'. This story keeps changing Shane.

I appreciate the fact that you even answered me, but again, you're missing my point. Please explain to me what an accounting firm in Italy would fear of performing an audit of non-U.S. Lock subsidiaries? Are you trying to tell me that the U.S. DoJ would contact the Italian accounting firm and demand all information from their audit of "Lock Italy"? That information would ONLY entail "Lock Italy" numbers. And why would that accounting firm be in trouble of being 'blacklisted by the U.S. DoJ in regards to future audits of U.S. companies as Jen Larson also stated?

You do realize that even if the U.S. DoJ did contact the firm, not only would that firm have absolutely NO legal obligation to the U.S. DoJ, but that they would also have absolutely NO information regarding the U.S. player funds or anything related to U.S. players, which would have already been legally segregated by Lock, resulting in the U.S. DoJ getting NOWHERE.

The "fear" you speak of in regards to an accounting firm not wanting to sign on board is a complete lie Shane. The truth is, that it's the FEAR that Lock Poker in general seems to hold themselves of an accounting firm performing the audit and finding issues. Do you have any idea how many accounting firms are in each nation? Do you have any idea how many of them would actually perform audits of Lock's non-U.S. subsidiaries?

The fact that someone at Lock, let alone the CEO, had the audacity to tell us that no accounting firm would perform an audit is quite the bold lie. Hire an accounting firm already to perform an audit of non-U.S. subsidiaries. She deserves to be hated, and my hatred isn't irrational as she claims. My hatred is formed around being lied to, especially regarding lies in my very field of work.
05-20-2013 , 12:00 PM
Shane if you were to take a few steps back from Lock could you honestly say your company has been honest with the players on your site?
05-20-2013 , 12:10 PM
Shane - When will the new representative from Lock be arriving to serve the community on 2+2?

Thank you.
05-20-2013 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Actually the important difference is your relationship with the scammer and from what I read there was no attempt from you to help make the situation right.

So despite spending a lot of your time on here trying to force people to your will to do "what is right" in your own backyard, in your own forum you dont hold your own friends to the same standard.

It might be just me but that seems a little out of wack.

"From what you read"? So while you could be helping customers or figuring things out you were instead doing some background research on kilowatt and his forum? What? Why do you care and why does that matter? And, more importantly, why are you wasting your time on that?

If you're going to stay here perhaps you could just stick to Lock discussion? This is really unprofessional of you and is certainly not the way that you should be officially representing your company.

It is obvious that kilowatt has the support of at least a handful in this community and raises some good points. If you find some of his points to be not so strong then you can directly address them. He articulates them well so that really should make it easy for you.

If kilowatt were discovered to be a serial killer that would still not make any of his discussion points about Lock any less valid....and it would not make the community any less interested in Lock responding to those topics.
05-20-2013 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
Shane - When will the new representative from Lock be arriving to serve the community on 2+2?

Thank you.
lol he hasnt answered this one yet?
05-20-2013 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
Shane - When will the new representative from Lock be arriving to serve the community on 2+2?

Thank you.
The new rep has both arrived and is continuing to (selectively) answer questions.

"What is this?", you say?

"I thought the new rep only had one post, and it contained nothing useful", you protest?

Wrong.

The new rep has been here the whole time.

His name is Shane.

Shane and "Joseph" are the same person.

Lock, in their pathetic and continuous underestimation of the 2+2 community's intelligence, came up with the following brilliant plan:

Lock needed to get their 2+2 ads back. They had promised Mat Sklansky that they would appoint a "new rep" to solve everyone's problems and get everything resolved to the public's satisfaction.

Lock really believed that simply having Shane create a different account would somehow satisfy everyone, despite heaping the same load of BS onto the public.

That is, Lock was so naive that they thought their lies would be believable if coming from the brave new "Joseph" rather than the tarnished Shane. They honestly believed that their problem was simply their messenger, and not their laughably dishonest message.

The evidence that Shane and Joseph are the same person is pretty overwhelming:

- Shane and Joseph both have a Berlin-area IP address. (Lock does not appear to have any headquarters in Germany, nor are there any other known Lock employees hailing from there.)

- Shane and Joseph both misspelled Cyprus as "Cypress".

- Shane and Joseph both used the highly uncommon phrase "side of things".

- Shane and Joseph both used the semi-uncommon phrase "completely fabricated".

- Shane and Joseph both have a screen name that is all lower case (and without spaces), despite both containing words/names that would be expected to be capitalized. Shane is "imjustshane", while Joseph is "lockpokerofficial". This is actually significant. "lockpokerofficial" looks rather awkward. Most would choose a format such as "LockPokerOfficial", "Lock_Poker_Official", or "Lock Poker Official" when signing up that screen name. Shane's "imjustshane" name is also in this highly unorthodox capitalization/spacing method.


Shane has explained Joseph's absence by saying that he's been "busy" lately.

In reality, Shane gave up on pretending to be Joseph after this lame attempt to fool the community failed.

Just another example of lies by Lock and Shane, intended to fool Lock's players and 2+2's posters.
05-20-2013 , 05:48 PM
Shane if you decided to go to vip is it possible say in 3-4 months you don't have time for the volume you put in the past, could you go back to rakeback? Also I'm not sure if I could do this, but if possible if it would not stall my cash out, although it is still requested from 4-30 could i make it from 1800 to 2k without delaying it or is that to late?
05-20-2013 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chopsy2
Shane if you were to take a few steps back from Lock could you honestly say your company has been honest with the players on your site?
Ive said previously if it was up to me I would have changed the cashout delivery times much sooner. While there was a period where the majority of cashouts were still inside those estimated times they then slipped outside of those times and we didnt update those estimated times quick enough.

I thought that was misleading and something we could have done much better.


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Originally Posted by jay94
Shane if you decided to go to vip is it possible say in 3-4 months you don't have time for the volume you put in the past, could you go back to rakeback? Also I'm not sure if I could do this, but if possible if it would not stall my cash out, although it is still requested from 4-30 could i make it from 1800 to 2k without delaying it or is that to late?
Yes you can switch back.

The only way to change a cashout is to cancel it and resubmit it, this would move it to the back of the queue so would delay it.
05-20-2013 , 07:17 PM
Can you change me to vip then my username is gettsome187
05-20-2013 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jay94
Can you change me to vip then my username is gettsome187
Just shoot me an email with the request so I can verify your account and I can take care of that right away.
05-20-2013 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Ive said previously if it was up to me I would have changed the cashout delivery times much sooner. While there was a period where the majority of cashouts were still inside those estimated times they then slipped outside of those times and we didnt update those estimated times quick enough.

I thought that was misleading and something we could have done much better.




Yes you can switch back.

The only way to change a cashout is to cancel it and resubmit it, this would move it to the back of the queue so would delay it.
I wasn't being specific enough I guess so I will try again. Shane do you think the company you work for has been honest and straight forward with its customers? Not asking on one particular issue but overall.
05-20-2013 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
...this would move it to the back of the queue so would delay it.
Based on this logic, the older requests should be paid first, regardless of what newer and faster processors Lock's been using. As soon as Lock realized they could use faster processors, they should have COMMUNICATED with us as players with long-pending withdrawals, and made the move to cancel our requests and then resubmit them first AHEAD of newer requests.

Lock has plenty of time in its "verification stage" to delay new requests from being sent through. I'm sorry, but not a SINGLE request from like March 1st and onward should be paid until those before it are. Plain and simple. Get on track by creating order in your payouts.
05-20-2013 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chopsy2
I wasn't being specific enough I guess so I will try again. Shane do you think the company you work for has been honest and straight forward with its customers? Not asking on one particular issue but overall.
Honest: yes.

Straight forward: on the issues it can yes.
05-20-2013 , 07:51 PM
Man. I have the same payout issue with Lock. I made my withdraw request 4 months ago (In February), in my History it says Accepted, but no MTCN number. I have sent emails upon emails upon emails and get the same response "Please be patient, it should come any day now" I feel I am getting the run around. It appears they can easily take a deposit in less than a minute but when it comes to a withdrawal they give me the run around. This is starting to get frustrating. Now lately my emails aren't even being responded to. Is this a legit business?#Very Upset
05-20-2013 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by vindictive27
Based on this logic, the older requests should be paid first, regardless of what newer and faster processors Lock's been using. As soon as Lock realized they could use faster processors, they should have COMMUNICATED with us as players with long-pending withdrawals, and made the move to cancel our requests and then resubmit them first AHEAD of newer requests.

Lock has plenty of time in its "verification stage" to delay new requests from being sent through. I'm sorry, but not a SINGLE request from like March 1st and onward should be paid until those before it are. Plain and simple. Get on track by creating order in your payouts.
I agree totally
05-20-2013 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
Shane - When will the new representative from Lock be arriving to serve the community on 2+2?

Thank you.

Shane, you have responded to other questions. Please respond to this one.
05-20-2013 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
Shane, you have responded to other questions. Please respond to this one.
He already did.

      
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