Looks like they're new timeline is June 1st when things will get better. What then? Lets say June 1st comes and nothing has happened or change and things are going down hill and more Lock pros jump ship (Like Moorman). I mean is there really anything any of us can even do?

Things will probably be exactly the same and they'll give the same old song and dance again - It's always been "we expect things to improve over the next couple weeks." Obviously that has never happened. June 1st will hit and Shane/Joseph/imjustanotherlockrep will post here and tell us there's been new developments and to wait another month, yada yada.

I hope I'm dead wrong and we can all withdrawal with hast, though. Even if things improved to ridiculous cashout speeds I won't be raking another cent on Lock's skin based on principal alone.

the only solution is for everyone to stop playing on this site. Not just everyone on 2+2 who know whats going on (especially those on 2+2), but the people that don't know about 2+2 and r just online degens looking for action. Its clear to me that the money i have on Lock is as good as the play money I have on Full Tilt. Everyone on Lock needs to be made aware of this crap. Otherwise, Larson is still making money off of rake and partying in Portugal. I refuse to enable this criminal enterprise.

I actually think there's a chance things improve by June 1. Not on a fundamental level of course, but I think Lock will do what it can to make those stated goals and hope that this buys them more credibility/time. Of course I dont think anyone should be fooled if withdrawal times pick up over the next few weeks. But at least it might give more of us a chance to get some non-zero part of our remaining balances out.

If things don't improve any by June 1, and if Lock continues to avoid communicating with customers in any meaningful way, I think the bottom will fall out and you will see more sponsored pros defect. Chris Costigan will take the extreme step of printing an article about Lock on g911 that is objective and tonally neutral.

Exactly what Golden says. Sites like G911 would no longer promote Lock if they ever get to the point of stiffing players. Right now they are having processing issues and players are experiencing unusually long delays.

We dealt with the very same issues last summer with another big online gambling company primarily on the sports betting side and it sort of mimics what is going on here in that there was no rhyme or reason to why some people were getting paid and why others were not. The email corresondences were similar, payouts would be promised then cancelled etc..

That company is one of the biggest and they are still experiencing some processing issues right now but payouts for the most part are going much smoother and the complaints have subsided.

Other large companies like Sportsbook.com had a similar issue immediately following UIGEA. There were cries by some on the forums to burn the owners at the stake. Years later all is well.

Once you do get paid by Lock, wait it out a bit.

As I posted to Lock's Facebook page today: "...Today is day 122 since initially requesting my withdrawal via WU that YOU cancelled and converted to a check withdrawal a month ago now. Oh, and I have 37 emails saved from Lock Support/Shane regarding this 01/06/13 withdrawal, that's right 37 emails in the last 4 months just FROM your end. You cannot possibly have anything else to tell me in regards to this delay. This is long overdue."

At what point do you consider it stiffing a player? As long as they're still 'technically' in business and haven't gone under, you're going to assume that they are going to pay players? Chris Costigan please disappear from these forums altogether. There becomes a length of time in waiting where you have to come to the conclusion that you are indeed being stiffed. I have been past that length of time for about a month now. I think 3 months was ample time for them, and it took them 3 months just to 'cancel' and resubmit my request. It's been over 4 months now in total and it's crap, and since you don't happen to be personally in a similar situation, you WILL NEVER understand.

notice the withdrawal thread it looks like nobody hasn't received a check in a while.

worst advice ever, no customer service, no p2p details and is well known for past scams, what would you wait for more problems. when players get there check after 5 months, you suggest to wait it out I suggest run. you must be that g911 shill

He is.

You do realize you are doing more harm to Lock with every post you make right?

What will probably happen is that some people will receive cash outs while a much larger group don't, Lock will point to those cash outs and say "See, things really are turning around!". In other words, the same thing that's going on now, only with larger average delays and more stealing for imaginary reasons.

This whole Lock situation eerily reminds me of the Everleaf scam, and how they ended.

Anyone who promotes this crap site, which has repeated demonstrated they don't even care enough about their customers to tell them the truth, should be ashamed of themselves.

Any 2p2er who plays on this site after this without proof of solvency is going to get laughed at the next time there's another cash out crisis. You know, on the off chance this crisis actually resolves.

People who want to help should be actively tweeting to direct players AWAY from this joke of a site. Why would you want to help people play where they can experience massive difficulty getting their money and enjoy the pleasure of having "official" reps and paid shills like lolg911 lie to them?

EVERYONE should start tweeting about how badly Lock sucks and tell everyone to stop playing and never go back, whether they get their money back or not.

The only way shady and dishonest sites like this are going to stop is if WE AS A PLAYER BASE STOP PLAYING ON THEM!

#LockPokerSucks

totally agree here.. said the same in a post a few weeks ago

I had fb comments removed yesterday. It was something like "This would all stop immediately if you showed us that the money is there. I don't know why you wouldn't just show us."

You wouldn't have an option to promote them. If they stiff players its because they would have already closed....

Here's an investigative journalism project for the guys at G911: Find me one person who believes this trash your peddling who isn't getting paid by Lock to think that way.

You seem to be addressing the situation from a completely different standpoint than the rest of us are. We all know how ponzi schemes work. Of course the company can continue to trickle out capped withdraws with ridiculous restrictions because deposits will always be rolling in. What we want to know is whether the funds are actually segregated or not. So when/if this site gets shut down will it be another AP/UB situation where the shell is hollow and everyone gets stiffed? or will it be a Stars situation where all player funds are available and players get paid? Thats the only thing we want to know. Since Jen replies to you immediately, how about you suggest that she prove to some independent third party that the player funds actually exist? I mean this won't happen because we all know that the company is nearly broke, but I would love to eat my words here.

rinse and repeat process obv

If your account balance doesn't actually exist in reality then there's not much for the site to rake in reality so it doesn't even matter if you play or not... they're just accumulating imaginary rake of imaginary funds. I guess if some new players deposit then those are real funds that can be raked but they'll probably just outright steal those funds anyway and cut out the tiresome business of having to rake them

Ib4 Lock advertises the $1 trillion gtd freeroll , only available for new depositors !

You seem unclear. The funds (theoretically) should be backed by deposits. So while YOU can't have that money (if it was the result of a p2p transfer) they can still earn real rake off of it.

Yeh but if those deposits have been spent on castle retreats etc then now they're just raking play money anyway

I agree with Frogman here. The money displayed in player accounts, won in tournaments, collected in rake, etc. is merely an accounting. The money have in real world bank accounts and other stores of value is real. When Lock collects a dollar in rake the amount in those real world accounts doesn't increase by a dollar. If Lock is going to eventually default on its obligations to players and retain for itself the total value of those monies it has in various accounts (both assumptions, but both looking more and more likely), then the amount they collect in rake over the next few months or whatever won't really matter.

It just lowers their liability owed to players. But ya everyone is fearing that the funds are simply not there.

Chris Costigan let me just make this clear. You are a grade A scum bag. You continue to promote a site that, way more often than not, will be unable to pay players. You are doing it knowingly.

If you think the site is actually solvent then buy up my money 35 cents on the dollar here and now and score yourself a huge profit (10k for virtually no work). Since you are unwilling to do this it indicates that you do in fact know that what you are selling people is not a real product.

Scum.

How is Lock doing now that it's more than 1 month?

Still don't have MTCN from Feb. 1 WU cashout. Had the sender info for 1.5 months now. Remarkable improvement!