+1 to this. Discovered it a few weeks back. Makes a huge difference when you work under/near florescent lights.

I use:
- TextMate for Python, Ruby, C, C++, Java, makefiles, whatever else.
- XCode for Objective-C, occasionally C/C++
- vim when I'm dealing with huge files
- been using Aptana PyDev a bit lately, but find it a bit sluggish.

Also, if you use vim, make sure you use 'screen'.

Currently on a pretty broad webdesign 2 year course, which is everything from graphics to coding.
1 year in and it looks like we won't be taught more than HTML/CSS and PHP.
I have been using notepad++ and just recently Eclipse and XAMPP after I began making a blog from a guide book. Before that I would edit xxx.php/html/css in notepad++ and then upload on server and see how it looks, rinse repeat.
So that turned out to be a very boring process. Now with eclipse/xampp I can atleast check it on my local server.
What I'm trying to ask is, do you recommend start using another program before I get settled with eclipse? ( I obviously don't know all the posibilities of eclipse yet)
I'm new to coding but unsure that I will go that path, but if I happen to do so, I wan't to be as prepared as I can.
Thanks

been using vim for years and have no idea what that means

Eclipse for Java, VS for .NET stuff and Notepad++ for text.

I've used netbeans and liked it, but kept coming back to Eclipse. It just seems a bit more streamlined and more/better plugins. I used IntelliJ a few years ago and loved it... but didn't love it enough to pay for it.

I always use dark on light and while I've always liked the idea of light on dark, I've always just been to lazy to change. Anyone got a good Eclipse them I can download?

http://man.cx/screen

I prefer tmux.

http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/

Basically allows you to have a bunch of terminals in one terminal, switch between them with hot keys and allows you to disconnect from a screen sessions and reconnect later with the same setup you left off with. (including unintended disconnects).

From the above link:

vs 2010 for c++, asp.net

crimson editor java, php, perl, etc

Whats your typical screen workflow/layout? Every few months I get the idea that 'hey I should be using screen', but then get tired of all the ctrl+a's. I eventually switch back to using 2-3 windowed shells. Fwiw, I develop on two 30in monitors, so space isn't an issue.

+1000 on screen. One of the most amazing things ever

Is anyone using http://www.cloud9ide.com?

Really depends a lot on the project I'm working on. Generally I don't use vim as my main editor, but any time I find myself using more 2 shells, I fire up screen and start using it on one of them. For me it's less of an issue of screen space, and more of just losing windows.

Might do something like:

- Editing with TextMate, perhaps mounting a home dir over ssh using Google Fuse.
- Terminal #1 : whatever compiler I'm using.
- Terminal #2 : screen multiplexing between: my test setup, logs directory, whatever cvs system I'm using, consoles for any servers I might be using, etc.

Being able to disconnect/reconnect a screen session is pretty awesome.

Screen I think is nice if you're working a remote shell.

But being able to arrange a bunch of gvim windows beats screen for local work.

Why screen over tmux? (I noticed you were a Puffy fan).

Well screen and screen like programs

Yeah, haven't used tmux, but it could very well be better. I just use screen as it's hardcoded in my brain as one of the first things I install when I start on a new system.

Am I reading this correctly - screen is a way to have multiple files open in vim at once? Like emacs buffers, but clearly less awesome?

Not quite. It's more like having multiple terminals open within terminal. You can use ^a-n to iterate through them and ^a-c to create a new terminal.

You can already have multiple files open in Vim at once, maybe you're thinking of Vi...

Also great for keeping stuff running while logged off as you can 'detach' a screen session and 'reattach' it when you log back on. oldsk00l irc'ers will know this

Screen creates a persistent virtual terminal that you can run things in. In fact you can create multiple shells, and switch between them easily. You can even quit screen, but leave everything running, to re-open that session later.

It's so useful. But I don't see using it for everyday software development, having only one editor open at a time and all that.

I want my god damn channel back!

coders idle on freenode

kiddiez idle on efnet

I idle on both

on another note, work is finally giving me a mbp. Unlikely I'll get the cheap bastards to pay for much software so I may just make an attempt to migrate to vim thanks to this thread.

anyone recommend macvim instead?

Any vim loving OS X users out there?

I'm having problems.

I have vi integrated with mc (midnight commander) and everything seems spiffy. However, once I tried to explore the world of colorschemes, all went awry. Apparently Terminal.app doesn't support 256 colors. So I downloaded iTerm.app (which I thought was antiquated with the recent OS X versions of Terminal.app).

Anyway, the OS X 'vi' doesn't support 256 color either so I try to install a MacPorts version (no luck, same thing).

I found MacVim but it's not a terminal editor which sucks if I want to integrate with mc.

Any thoughts?

MacVim most definitely includes console support.

You just have to grab one of the scripts that runs it from within the bundle.

Also, make sure you grab iTerm 2. It's a fork that is much faster and nicer.

In fact just run /Applications/MacVim.app/Contents/MacOS/Vim