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05-31-2011 , 06:49 AM
I'm sad there's no ASP.net / C# thread, can we have one?
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05-31-2011 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
I'm sad there's no ASP.net / C# thread, can we have one?
In Soviet Russia, thread starts you!
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05-31-2011 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
I'm sad there's no ASP.net / C# thread, can we have one?
Feel free

Juk
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05-31-2011 , 10:23 AM
I would be interested to see some ASP.net chat, not a technology I have really used.
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05-31-2011 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
I'm sad there's no ASP.net / C# thread, can we have one?
Only if it's managed.
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06-01-2011 , 06:19 AM
Best stack overflow question ever http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6...-tree-software

(from reddit
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06-01-2011 , 06:22 AM
lmfao. At first I was like, "oh technical terminology come out wrong" then I re-read it and LOLLED
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06-01-2011 , 04:11 PM
i'm looking for someone who is an expert at wordpress theme creation and configuration.

willing to pay obv, pm me
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06-02-2011 , 12:02 AM
I spent another day helping my buddy with his homework, which is hand-coding HTML and CSS.

He had some help from one of his friends. The friend has a CS degree, but he doesn't know anything about web coding, so he worked on my friend's website project. He put the entire thing in one stylesheet and left tons of dangling code.

So, he decided to put everything into one stylesheet, not like say two of them because some of the pages are drastically different, and have tags with the same name, so fix one page, go to another page, fix it, and now everything is messed up. Rename tags, blech...

I laughed because absolutely nothing changed from what he had last week when I "helped" him with this. I set up everything in gawdy colors to show him how the stuff works, and not even that changed.

So, he tells me that he needs javaScript and Java Applets on the page (the book is from 2002). I don't know crud about Applets, so I just had him do a basic document.write("whatever") for his javaScript. He was upset because there was "nothing special" about that function. I says, "what do you expect to happen? It says write that on your document and it did it."

It's very hard to help someone who is this clueless. Trying to make something function with questionable code is more difficult than it seems. Oh, and of course, since he is so bad with this stuff, he won't allow me to do A+ work: his goal is to specifically get a C.

So that mean no children/sibling manipulation, but that is okay since there is nothing on his site that would call for such a thing (I also specifically steer him away from anything that is "impressive.")

My friend actually has an online store, but it is subdomain to a master domain. His friend was kind enough to open an account on intuit.com with a real .com domain, which of course, has CMS and stuff.

I would think that the least my friend could do to thank me is let me hand-code his site to HTML5 and upload those files into the CMS so I at least have something to show off.

But the whole thing is a disaster. His friend is strongly against hand-coding websites, and of course, using a CMS is easier, etc. My friend even want to put flash on his site, so he asked if I could help him put flash on his project. I laughed.
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06-02-2011 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
Trying to make something function with questionable code is more difficult than it seems.
This is one of the most valuable lessons you can learn. Writing code is not that difficult, but writing/fixing code that works with other code you didn't write can be very complicated. Most good programing practices are based of the fact that someone that isn't you will likely have to read the code in the future and try to get it to work.
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06-02-2011 , 12:06 PM
Even if it is you. If I have looked at a function for a month, then come back to it, I'm always puzzled by what the hell I was thinking.
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06-02-2011 , 01:15 PM
My guess is you were thinking about ponies.
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06-02-2011 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TheIrishThug
This is one of the most valuable lessons you can learn. Writing code is not that difficult, but writing/fixing code that works with other code you didn't write can be very complicated. Most good programing practices are based of the fact that someone that isn't you will likely have to read the code in the future and try to get it to work.
this
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06-03-2011 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
The RockYou one is just past the Zynga billboard which tilts the **** out of me, I don't give a **** about CityVille
The Zynga billboard is now advertising "GagaVille" which appears to be a Lady Gaga-themed subset of FarmVille.

A former coworker left our company to go work there. I don't know how he sleeps at night.
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06-03-2011 , 12:14 AM
Presumably on a giant pile of money and options.
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06-03-2011 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TheIrishThug
This is one of the most valuable lessons you can learn. Writing code is not that difficult, but writing/fixing code that works with other code you didn't write can be very complicated. Most good programing practices are based of the fact that someone that isn't you will likely have to read the code in the future and try to get it to work.
Yeah. I always attempt to make my code super clean and logical.

But even so. While overhauling the site, I was shamed to see how much was in there that didn't need to be there, or was from earlier thoughts I forgot to take out when I rearranged things.

I had a large group of class id's that had nothing to do with the layout of the page, nothing to do with the CSS, and really had nothing to do with anything remotely close to logical. I just forgot to erase the stuff I was thinking about.


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Originally Posted by ArturiusX
Even if it is you. If I have looked at a function for a month, then come back to it, I'm always puzzled by what the hell I was thinking.
haha.

I get confused when I look at the basic stuff I do that isn't real programming. I hate to see the day I try to go back and look at stuff like this.
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06-03-2011 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ArturiusX
Even if it is you. If I have looked at a function for a month, then come back to it, I'm always puzzled by what the hell I was thinking.
Isn't the goal to minimize this over time? I always see this as an invitation to do some refactoring, because if I'm confused it would have to be a nightmare for someone else.
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06-03-2011 , 11:06 AM
Btw, what do you guys think of the .me domain extensions. Or the value of non .com and .net extensions in general? To me its kind of old school to have a bias against non premium extensions, but in talking to a bunch of poker players that bias seems to still be pretty prevalent. But I still put .me behind only .net in terms of worth, and not that far behind. It is just so clean and has some great built in meaning.

Like to give an extreme example, wouldn't poker.me be a pretty awesome domain? Would people really have enough of a bias that it would affect your traffic if your product was good?
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06-03-2011 , 11:10 AM
Wow, just came across this statistic.

116 of the top 2000 traffic sites are .NET
1000 .NET are in the first 16,000 Traffic sites.

It sucks though, the .com domain I want is $5k. The .net version of it is $500. And the .me version of it (which I of course own ) was $20. Might end up launching with .me, and then buying the other two if I have success.
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06-03-2011 , 11:19 AM
I would avoid all domains except .com and sometimes .net. I only register other names to protect my brand.

There are so many domain extensions now, and bear in mind I think soon they are opening the floodgates and allowing anyone to register any extension (providing you have a few hundred $k in cash), so for example I could register "www.-----.tom".

I'm not sure how that's going to affect the domain market in the long run. The clever sticky ones are going to do best with some good marketting (eg "po.ker" or "fi.sh" etc) but 99.99% of the rest will be probably be total junk.

Everytime I consider registering a .me, .info etc I always remind myself how many of those domains I can name off the top of my head. Pretty much 0. If you get a good .me domain, a good % of your customers are just going to type in .com anyway.

The domain going for $5k, email them, unless this is ultra premium you should be able to knock the price down considerably (IE, 1/5th perhaps). Send an email with your sincere offer. If they reject it they might contact you in the future when they realise they were overly optimistic at the value of it.
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06-03-2011 , 11:27 AM
Yeah, I might be biased in favor of .me because I'm a fan of about.me.

http://about.me/veronica

But after doing some reading I'm seeing that .me is not highly regarded at all. I think it comes down to just thinking outside the box with non obvious domain choices. Like okcupid.com in the dating realm, or kickstarter.com for raising money. In fact, from a marketing standpoint non obvious domains are probably better since the most premium domains are so bland and faceless...
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06-03-2011 , 11:30 AM
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In fact, from a marketing standpoint non obvious domains are probably better since the most premium domains are so bland and faceless...
Don't underestimate the power of simple 'bland' names! EG, "poker.com" has potential huge value. Also don't overestimate the value of creative colourful names, like "rainbow-elephant-travel.com".

Domains are pretty much a case by case basis imo.
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06-03-2011 , 11:53 AM
I use .me for my personal domain and blog, but I would advise against using it for anything commercial. For a personal domain tho, I would recommend it.
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06-03-2011 , 01:07 PM
I always recommend .com for commercial ventures.

and I want to stab my face with a fork when people call TLDs "extensions."
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06-03-2011 , 01:25 PM
That might be an overreaction.
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